Posted by 4949:You'd take Phoenix record anytime, any day of the year and you know it. Man, I wish it was already 15 or 20 games into the season to prove my point. Just wait, just wait!

What's going to be different in 20 games? Or is that when the Marbury/Curry/Randolph for Nash/Amare trade in your head goes down? Yeah, I'd take Phoenix's record under D'Antoni as opposed to the Knicks' in the same period, but wtf does that have to do with your assertion that the Knicks are going to start focusing more on defense as soon as they figure out the offense, when Phoenix/Denver/his Italian teams NEVER did?

I never said Lee was worth Brand money. It's pretty obvious that Brand is much more talented and a lot more experienced also. But should we send Lee away because he can't hang? I wish I could hear the same arguments for some other players, but for some reason it always comes back to Lee.

But you know something, I am pretty much defending just about everyone on this roster. I'm for protecting the roster and giving them a look, especially with this new system. I am trying not to be too critical anymore of these players. I will discuss, express displeasure for them, but I think I am done with the name calling.

If you noticed, I stopped calling Marbury 'suck' anymore. And I'll take a few jabs here and there, but I just think there is way too much negativity throughout this entire franchise. All the way down to the fan. And we have to go by chain of command.

If the coach says that Marbury is on the inactive list, then that's the way it has to be. If Curry is to sit and do nothing, then I defend that, because it is the coaches decision. These players have got to do what the coach says to do. This team needs discipline. Period! And the media and the fans need to either support his decisions or shut it. When Isiah was coach, I would have respected him 'if' he had put his foot down and made it clear that no one was going to walk all over him, but he let it happen anyway.

D'Antoni is going to look like an ******* at times, but it's for these guys own good. And I still believe that is what Larry Brown was trying to do. It just came off wrong when he got caught up into the media circus. I don't care what anyone says. We need this discipline.

And for the first time in a long time, I'm much more optimistic than I was before and this time I want to follow through on the plan and Walsh has one he's already expressed. We should all be grateful for that. The agony of not knowing what was going on the last three years, behind closed doors was a horrible experience as a Knick fan. And I hope you guys don't forget that. We're better off now and it's only going to get better.

i think the fundamental flaw with D'Antoni's system is that he seems to prefer smaller, quicker guys, thinking it creates easy buckets and tough defensive matchups for the other team. i don't know, it seems like we'll always be smaller than the other team, which doesn't work in the NBA. i'm willing to be patient with D"Antoni, but it's gonna be hard if we pass on Thabeet in the spring to draft another scorer.

Brand scored his first tren points on Randolph and he makes 17 million is Lee worth half of what Zach gets. The defense is horrible by everyone. When a guard get to the lane at will and you dont have shotblocklers or players too lazy to rotate the inside guys are going to get abused.

Posted by King1:

Brand scored his first tren points on Randolph and he makes 17 million is Lee worth half of what Zach gets. The defense is horrible by everyone. When a guard get to the lane at will and you dont have shotblocklers or players too lazy to rotate the inside guys are going to get abused.

Dude, he didn't just score on Randolph. He scored on both Randolph and Lee while both were standing there in the box. I know you like Lee but let's not get carried away here.

Posted by King1:

Then naturally if Lee is standing there he is going to get scored on every time because our guard give up pentration every play and if you dont think the first ten points Brand had was on the block on Zach and then they put him on Dalemberat and he hit the jumper then you dont watch the game. I am not saying Lee is a good defensive player but Crawford and Zach and much worse and get paid 10 times more money than Lee.

I agree with you about the guard penetration. It is a disgrace what Green was doing to Crawford last night. One play that stands out in mind is Green bringing up a ball while Crawford is in front of him near mid court and Green passes right by Crawford without a single attempt by Crawford to stop him. That's your man. How in the hell do you let him just pass by you? No niffy moves by Green he just ran pass him. When did Green become a speed demon, Jamal? Dude doesn't care about defense he was just positioning himself to get back on a fast break.

im not so sure if Zach is worse than Lee, Lee never fouls correctly.. you can get an and-1 so easy on him.. He never uses his fouls appropriately to stop a layup. And he just puts his arms up like as if it were just because thats what your supposed to do he doesent put them up with the intention to actually defend. Hes really bad defender, so is Zach.. but i actually saw him contesting Brand a few times. Lee needs to step it up bigtime