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King1
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10/31/2008  10:30 PM
If Mark Blount gets 8 million, Adonal Foyle 7 million, and Erick Dampier 11 million is it too far fetched that lee gets 8-10 million
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10/31/2008  10:32 PM
I am not saying Lee is better than Bynum I am saying if he gets 14 million a year how is Lee not worth 8-10?
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10/31/2008  10:33 PM
Come on, do you really see Lee as a starter for us in the next couple of years? He is a nice hustle player that gets lots of rebounds, but he is a terrible defender and is still trying to get some sort of consistency in his middle range shot to have on his weak offensive arsenal. He is the perfect 6th man, but he isn't a starter on a contender. Unless, of course, your star is a center that makes up for Lee's shortcomings, but if he isn't kept at the right price, he is an excellent candidate to get traded and get value, a welcome change in NY...
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10/31/2008  10:34 PM
He will start for the first time in the league and get 15-10 and not turn the ball over. He will havbe people that want him next year I know that for a fact.
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10/31/2008  10:42 PM
What are you talking about? He's already a starter. And we aren't a contender. And let's see. You want him to be valuable and then get rid of him? Wow' that makes a lot of sense.

I wish you could say that for Crawford and Q. I want to make clear once again. The first year Lee came aboard, he put up nice numbers for a rook and showed a lot of promise. He earned a starting position for the next year. But was injured for much of the season and then the following year Isiah brought in Zach and Lee had his minutes cut and then got injured.

And so he still' hasn't had much of a chance to show what he has and that he can earn a starting position on this team. And so, here we are only two games and it's 'let's get rid of Lee' campaign again. Lee will change minds as he continues to start games and you get better and fuller results this year.
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10/31/2008  10:52 PM
Posted by King1:

If Mark Blount gets 8 million, Adonal Foyle 7 million, and Erick Dampier 11 million is it too far fetched that lee gets 8-10 million

Lee will easily see offers in that range, no doubt about it.
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10/31/2008  11:07 PM
This isn't about his performance so far this season nor its a case of "trade Lee just for the fun of it". The fact is we are an organization trying to build a team that can be a contender in the next 2-3 seasons. Its ok for Lee and the Knicks that he is starting now and he has put up good numbers. But so have ZBo, Craw and Q-Rich, and none are part of a contending team, at least not as protagonists, as they are here.

I think its the same case with Lee. Paired with a strong defensive center, one that is a good low post scorer, Lee will probably ge a solid starter on a contender. But he is the starting center right now, a terrible defender and not an offensive option.

I like Lee and I hope he stays with the Knicks, but I wonder his role for the future. If the goal is to be a contender in the next couple of seasons,

Im just wondering his position and role. If we do build up a contender, do you see him as a starter or a key role player?
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10/31/2008  11:07 PM
I am his biggest fan and I think that is what he is worth.
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11/1/2008  8:03 AM
Centers always get paid more than other players.

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11/1/2008  5:20 PM
The Pistons and Jason Maxiell agreed on a $20 million, four-year contract extension, a basketball official told The Associated Press on Thursday on the condition of anonymity because the deal had not been signed.

The 25-year-old Maxiell is in the final year of his contract and decided to stick with the team that drafted him 26th overall in 2005 instead of becoming a free agent after the season.

He had career highs last season, averaging 7.9 points on 54 percent shooting along with 5.3 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 21.5 minutes per game.

The 6-foot-7, 260-pound forward is one of the Pistons' top reserves and likely will have a larger role in the years to come.

I am not sure if this won't be the market price for Lee.
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11/1/2008  5:23 PM
So a guy that will double his career averages is going to get paid the same. His market will be 8-10 and if the Knicks dont pay it someone will. His first year starting he will be top 7 in rebounding in the NBA. DOes the Knicks havbe anyone that will be in the top ten of any category and Lee has a chance to be in two FG% and rebounding and people think he wont get paid.
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11/1/2008  5:38 PM
Posted by King1:

So a guy that will double his career averages is going to get paid the same. His market will be 8-10 and if the Knicks dont pay it someone will. His first year starting he will be top 7 in rebounding in the NBA. DOes the Knicks havbe anyone that will be in the top ten of any category and Lee has a chance to be in two FG% and rebounding and people think he wont get paid.

Maxiell plays behind McDyess and Wallace and is fast becoming one of the best post defenders in the league. Lee played behind Frye and Randolph and is no where becoming one of the league best defenders. Look at the 1.2 blocks. With Lee type of minutes I think he could put similar rebounds. Maxiell is also a better post player. Lee still needs to work on the footwork.
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11/1/2008  5:41 PM
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Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by King1:

Lee will get offers and very nice ones and the Knicks wont match. If they do match that would be retarded because you could have gotten him a lot cheaper before he puts up numbers better than Bogut, Bynum and Biedrins this year. Everyone is talking the reason those guys have gotten so much money is because they are 7-0. The league is moving to smaller quicker guys.

tell that to the lakers.

Lee's defensive weakness is my biggest issue... 10+ mil for a guy who simply can't guard anyone is absurd. We already have Crawford as our designated weak-link on defense; unless David shows major signs of improvement here, I'm not sure he's worth that kind of investment

Nate's not a great defender himself, and he's also up for contract. I find it interesting that no one's talking about what Nate might make or be asking for.

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11/1/2008  5:43 PM
Posted by King1:

If Mark Blount gets 8 million, Adonal Foyle 7 million, and Erick Dampier 11 million is it too far fetched that lee gets 8-10 million

How come Lee doesn't get 21 million a year like Marbury did??
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11/1/2008  5:49 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by gr33d:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by King1:

Lee will get offers and very nice ones and the Knicks wont match. If they do match that would be retarded because you could have gotten him a lot cheaper before he puts up numbers better than Bogut, Bynum and Biedrins this year. Everyone is talking the reason those guys have gotten so much money is because they are 7-0. The league is moving to smaller quicker guys.

tell that to the lakers.

Lee's defensive weakness is my biggest issue... 10+ mil for a guy who simply can't guard anyone is absurd. We already have Crawford as our designated weak-link on defense; unless David shows major signs of improvement here, I'm not sure he's worth that kind of investment

Nate's not a great defender himself, and he's also up for contract. I find it interesting that no one's talking about what Nate might make or be asking for.

I don't get the feeling that Nate is worried about his contract money. I wouldn't be surprised if he accepts a qualifying offer ala Ben Gordon. I think he knows of a couple of teams and GMs interest in him.
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11/1/2008  5:50 PM
It's really hard to make the case as to what Lee is worth, isn't it? Seeing that Marbury makes 21 million and for what? Seeing that Allan Houston made 100 million and for what? Seeing that Zach is gonna make 17 million and for what? Seing that Curry is gonna pull in 9 million and for what? And not to mention the other rediculous contracts in Q, Crawford, Jerome, etc.

Do you guys see what I'm getting at? All this money and no talent!!! What are people (who do have the talent) gonna think when they come knocking on the door?

Lee's contract suspicions aren't the biggest woes. It's this whole teams contracts. I mean if we're gonna talk talent here, then let's bring it all' up and put it all' on the table. Let's not just target Lee. Let's get it all out there.
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11/1/2008  5:58 PM
Posted by 4949:

It's really hard to make the case as to what Lee is worth, isn't it? Seeing that Marbury makes 21 million and for what? Seeing that Allan Houston made 100 million and for what? Seeing that Zach is gonna make 17 million and for what? Seing that Curry is gonna pull in 9 million and for what? And not to mention the other rediculous contracts in Q, Crawford, Jerome, etc.

Do you guys see what I'm getting at? All this money and no talent!!! What are people (who do have the talent) gonna think when they come knocking on the door?

Lee's contract suspicions aren't the biggest woes. It's this whole teams contracts. I mean if we're gonna talk talent here, then let's bring it all' up and put it all' on the table. Let's not just target Lee. Let's get it all out there.

So you want to talk about Marbury getting another contract with the Knicks and how much you think he will get? What's the point. The reason why Lee is being discuss is because he is a restricted free agent at the end of the season and no deal has been worked out yet. So people are discussing what type of money he could be looking at. If you don't that then you are more out there than I actually thought.
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