Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd assume we'd have to include a huge sweetner to get this deal done.

oh, u said huge SWEETNER! *chuckle* my bad.

Posted by TMS:

i'd make that deal in a heartbeat, & i like Nate... we all need to put our personal feelings aside & look at the big picture here... 2010 is a huge season to have cap flexibility i don't care what u wanna say about how we're not getting Lebron... Zach's playing well right now so if u can unload that money in other ways u gotta do it... obviously the preference would be to get rid of Fishlips & Curry at this point but u can't have ur cake & eat it too... if it means watching Nate grow into a very good player in another team's uniform to allow us to have the means to at least target some franchise calibre talent in a couple years, u gotta do it.

we can deal w/this rotation for a year or 2 while we wait & still win just as many games as we would have if we didn't make the deal:

C - Zach / Jefferies / Turd
PF - Lee / Gallo / Malik
SF - Harrington / Chandler
SG - Jamal / Q Rich / Roberson
PG - Duhon / Mardy / The Truth

Posted by TMS:

ok first off, Nate's not a young star player, so let's throw that out the window right now... he's an energetic 6th man I like like to watch & root for him as much as any other Knicks fan, but $17 million in cap savings is not exactly something to sneeze at... Al Harrington's not exactly a scrub either, he can play... & w/a team of Zach, Lee, Gallo, Chandler & Jamal leftover it's not like a big star wouldn't have any other guys to play with in 2010 if he decided to come here... this deal is a no brainer if ur looking to make this team better in the long term.

Posted by MS:

You don't have to? Curry sucks he has three years on his deal, he is about to be taken out of the rotation and going to put on massive amounts of weight and will just eat up 11 million in the last year of his deal. You think he is going to be easy to trade.

I like Nate I think he is a good player, but you expect GS to do the deal just because.

I said a while back that a a good friend of mine was close with a current bulls player who mention eddy took substances to get his weight down and began to have heart problems. Of course plenty of idiots question my source and here we are three years later and he continues to get bigger. He isn't motivated he is a child with no work ethic he knew he needed to be in shape and he neglected to get himself in shape. He is only going to keep lowering his value, make the trade

Posted by Markji:

Posted by MS:

You don't have to? Curry sucks he has three years on his deal, he is about to be taken out of the rotation and going to put on massive amounts of weight and will just eat up 11 million in the last year of his deal. You think he is going to be easy to trade.

I like Nate I think he is a good player, but you expect GS to do the deal just because.

I said a while back that a a good friend of mine was close with a current bulls player who mention eddy took substances to get his weight down and began to have heart problems. Of course plenty of idiots question my source and here we are three years later and he continues to get bigger. He isn't motivated he is a child with no work ethic he knew he needed to be in shape and he neglected to get himself in shape. He is only going to keep lowering his value, make the trade

I believe you about Eddie and his heart. Actually, I was saying the same thing to friends when it happened only I was just surmising and didn't have a source.

Eddie is 7 ft and scored 19.5points/game 2 yrs ago. Last yr was a mess for the entire team due to Isiah. Eddie is having problems now. But Eddie has value. Don't undersell him. He is only 25 yrs old. Don't panic!

How many people on this forum had given up on Zach and wanted to trade him for nothing and even give up a first round pick. With a little patience and giving Zach a chance, we found out we had an excellent player. If we would have panicked and given away a lot, the future of the team would have been hurt. Same thing with Eddie now. Don't panic!

I am not saying Eddie will turn it around. I don't know. I have wanted to trade Eddie and keep Zach right from the beginning when everyone wanted to dump Zach. And I proposed Eddie for Al Harrington YESTERDAY in the other thread. I am not an Eddie lover....but I am not willing to give up a lot extra to trade a guy that averaged 19.5points/game.

Posted by MS:

People are so short sighted.

Again you analyze a deal with simple factors, gms don't do it.

Does Richard Jefferson make you a playoff team? No, then why trade Yi

Does Jason Richardson make you a playoff team? No then why trade a pick

Is Eddy Curry or Nate Robinson going to be allstars? No. So why tie up 18 million dollars in them. Very simple. GMs don't know how to do their jobs it's frightening.

Ricky Davis can average 19, Lee Nailon can, anyone can do it if they are giving a majority of the teams shot and are the focal point and they save energy by not looking to rebound or defend.

Posted by MS:

Zach had a record of stat success. eddy has not this is a fat lazy piece of **** that wouldnt have a job and would be collecting welfare and be unemployed if he wasn't in basketball. Career average of 5rbs.

Watch it dog, you're getting too excited. I'm not trying to read that kind of b.s

Posted by GKFv2:

I'm pretty sure he's not saying this because he's black. He's right. Eddy Curry would be living in his parents basement playing video games and weigh 500 lbs if he had no basketball talent whatsoever.