Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by CrushAlot:

They did with Ernie Grunfeld. That was how they were able to get Houston, Childs, and take on LJ's monster contract.

I believe the cap rules were waaaaaaaaaay different back in 96.

There was no cap in 1996.

Dude, the NBA has had a salary cap since its inception.

Well, I was wrong, but so are you:

The NBA had a salary cap in the mid-1940s, but it was abolished after only one season. The League continued to play without such a cap until 1984-85, when the current incarnation of the salary cap was instituted in an attempt to level the playing field among all of the NBA's teams and ensure competitive balance for the League in the future. Before the cap was reinstated, teams could spend whatever amount of money they wanted on players, but in the first season under the new cap, teams were limited to $3.6 million in total payroll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Salary_Cap

Anyway, I guess I always thought there was no cap because MJ made a bajillion dollars, so did Ewing... I guess they changed it so every team could only spend X dollars on a players, because the bigger markets held an advantage.

[Edited by - supremecommander on 10-28-2008 01:39 AM]

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

However if PEJ was 6'10 or taller he would be a lottery pick.

Posted by Elite:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I think it's pretty obvious that Walsh has a plan to get under the cap in 2010. That's the only plan that's necessary right now and you can't trade these terrible contracts overnight. Jesus, give the man some time. All we do as Knick fans is whine about how things don't happen fast enough. Give the man some damn time.

Im sick of letting people **** up and just "giving them time" thats what i kept hearing with Isiah.. Every move he made was baffling but peple were just like "give it some time, he has a plan" etc etc.. A bad move is a bad move and its easy to see a mile away.

Trading Balkman and releasing PEJ... 2 horrible moves.

Signing Dantoni and Duhan, drafting GAllo... 3 questionable moves at best

Posted by K22:

Though I have to wonder why he even brought Jr. in in the first place. Didn't DW realize that the fans would get attached to him?

Posted by Vmart:

You know what is funny. The Knicks organization played the fan base to basically increase ticket sales. For those that don't know the majority of tickets especially plans are sold in preseason. Thats why you see the infomercials on Fox TV. Look at what the Knicks did to sell the team. Bring in D'Antoni, who brings exciting brand of basketball. Bring in H20 from retirement with no intention of him even making the team. Bring in Grunfeld for the fans of the eighties era those that grew up with BK and Erinie Grunfeld. Then they bring in Pat Ewing Jr to win over the fans of the 90 era. See the pattern here to sell tickets. They didn't keep one of them except the one with the guarnateed contract D'Antoni.

Thats why you have to be wary with these guys they have some of the greatest selling minds working for them in the organization. I feel bad for the fans with this Pat Ewing Jr thing because we know he would have given a better effort than Jerome James night in and night out. Thats the sad part of this whole thing. Jerome is still a memeber of the team and guys like Marbury who have been know to destruct teams is still around to do more harm than good for the team. It was very short sighted by Walsh to give Roberson a contract based on summer league performace he simply isn't needed like Pat ewing was needed. Not so much for team morale but altleast for the fans morale lets face it he is the only one that we Knicks fans can relate to winning even if it was his old man that did the winning.

I'm not gonna say fire Walsh or anything like that, its just very sad that his decision lacked thought process. Ewing jr was a need for this team he over looked a need for a bad contract. Who is to say that he doesn't pull this cheap card when he is in line to ask LeBron what he wants. Walsh may be patient now he is patient and cheap. There is no LeBron coming here not with Walsh being so cheap. I can see Walsh walk away from LeBron once he puts his price tag on the table.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Pharz, I don't have a whole lot reasons to expect the Knicks to get LeBron in 2010. There's not a whole lot of history either way saying the Knicks will or won't. It's really a pipedream. With that said, right now what kind of moves can our GM make? We got teams offering capspace for Zach, which right now is the best it's gonna get. No one wants Curry for anything, you won't get a ton for Crawford. What is the GM supposed to do with such limited resources?

Posted by CrushAlot:

I am finding myself again questioning Walsh and 'the new era'. Getting rid of Ewing just does not make sense with Roberson and James both practical options for different reasons. I also have been wondering what the thinking is with David Lee. I do not think Gallinari will live up to his draft status and I think that pick was a huge one for the franchise. The 2010 philosophy/mantra actually seems very simplistic, short sighted and not based entirely in reality. I think there is a real risk of throwing away a reality based future in hopes of achieving a fantasy future. There are alot of teams who have set the same goal and most are much farther along in the process. The other task that Walsh has is rebuilding the reputation of the franchise after it was destroyed by Isiah Thomas. Step one should have been to fire Isiah. This did not happen and he continues to be linked to the franchise. Step two should have been to embrace some aspect of the past. Mark Jackson or Patrick Ewing on the bench or in the front office, keeping Junior, something to get the fans excited. Step three should have been to hire a defensive minded coach. I have been pleased and surprised with how well D'Antoni has done with the dysfunctional cast of characters he inherited. I think even the most basic coaching, structure, and expectations of professionalism and team goals was missing last year. D'Antoni has brought that back to the team. However, championship teams win because of their defense and because they play hard at both ends of the court.

Posted by TMS:

nix, even if Zach plays like an Allstar this year (which he is likely to do) i'd still want him outta here for a bag o balls... if u don't understand why then u totally miss the point why people want his contract off the books to begin with.