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10/27/2008  3:48 PM
Just another stupid move by Knicks management. When will the madness end? They can't keep a 15th man that the fans loved?
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10/27/2008  4:02 PM
"You start looking at well, what are our potential needs?" Donnie Walsh said. "I think that's where this went down to in the sense that it was felt that in the immediate future, potentially, that shooting could become a problem for this team. So that was the reason for Anthony Roberson because that's what he can do."

The Knicks looked for but could not complete a two-for-1 trade. Walsh said he hopes Ewing Jr. will play in the NBA Development League and the Knicks can bring him back.

"I think he's got a great upside," Walsh said. "As he develops, he's going to be a valuable player both offensively and defensively. It's always painful because you have to let somebody go that's worked hard. And he did. He worked very hard and he played well. But it's a simple case of 15 vs. 16 and you've got to do something."

Walsh responded to a question about the fans' overwhelming desire to release Jerome James instead: "Let's put it this way: I have no background with Jerome James, except he did not play last year," Walsh said. "So I understand the fans thinking that. He is under contract to us and we honor all our contracts. So basically, he's in the position that I've had other players in on this team, which is go out and prove yourself because you didn't play last year. So, we have to see what you are before we know what to do. And there could be a place for him on this team. But it'll be up to him to prove it in practice and if he gets a chance to play in the games, play in the games."



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10/27/2008  4:05 PM
You simply can't cut Jerome James. We need a center!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10/27/2008  4:09 PM
They've made a stance of not cutting or buying out high paid players. I understand that but I would have made one last concession with Big Snacks. E. Jr might have never gotten off the bench this season. Malik is valuable in this system, he can play/guard the forward/center position and run, he's a team player and a good locker room presence. Roberson's here because he's a runner/gunner and a decent defender. Hopefully E. Jr. will be back later in the season.

[Edited by - Travla on 27-10-2008 15:10]
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10/27/2008  4:17 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

I'm annoyed by the move because I don't understand the reasoning behind it. Why is buying out a player so taboo?


Economy is in the toilet and millions of Cablevision subscribers and shareholders probably wouldn't take well to Dolan burning more money.
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10/27/2008  4:19 PM
Walsh has disappointed me yet again. It almost feels like OD Isiah is running the show.
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10/27/2008  4:19 PM
balkman traded for a 2nd round pick.
ewing jr acquired and then cut.

d'antoni doesn't care for projects or guys that can't put the ball in the hole.

don't understand why they locked up roberson so early in the summer. is his agent somebody that needed some back scratching?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 4:20 PM]
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10/27/2008  4:19 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by SlimPack:

I'm annoyed by the move because I don't understand the reasoning behind it. Why is buying out a player so taboo?


Economy is in the toilet and millions of Cablevision subscribers and shareholders probably wouldn't take well to Dolan burning more money.

I would argue hes burning more money to let him stay. You either pay Jerome james to not be here so someone else can contribute.. or pay him to be here and not contribute... Business wise it makes more sense to cut him. CUT YOUR LOSSES
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10/27/2008  4:25 PM
Buying out Jerome would cost 13mil. Thats why he was safe from the get-go. You're not making $13mil in jersey sales or ticket sales for PEjr.

Now..should they have bought out $800k Roberson instead? YES!!!

This was a no brainer and Walsh showed he indeed has no brain.
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10/27/2008  4:30 PM
Roster moves have certainly been iffy so far. Roberson's never gonna get off the bench. With Jefferies hurt, Chandler having tweaked something, Curry out of shape, Danilo with the back etc.- P.E. Jr. actually had a shot to contribute a little in a pinch.
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10/27/2008  4:30 PM
Posted by kam77:

Buying out Jerome would cost 13mil. Thats why he was safe from the get-go. You're not making $13mil in jersey sales or ticket sales for PEjr.

Now..should they have bought out $800k Roberson instead? YES!!!

This was a no brainer and Walsh showed he indeed has no brain.


KEEPING JEROME JAMES STILL COSTS 13 MIL AND U STILL GET NOTHING FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!

WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10/27/2008  4:31 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Roster moves have certainly been iffy so far. Roberson's never gonna get off the bench. With Jefferies hurt, Chandler having tweaked something, Curry out of shape, Danilo with the back etc.- P.E. Jr. actually had a shot to contribute a little in a pinch.

Good point! But at least we have Malik and Jerome!!!!!!



[Edited by - elite on 27-10-2008 09:41 AM]
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10/27/2008  4:31 PM
Say what you will about Isaih. We traded a #2 for Nichols. I think we traded a #2 for Jared Jordan (who was just cut by NOH).

But since Donnie came aboard we traded a former first rounder, Balkman, for a #2. We traded a former #1 (who we drafted to replace PE Sr) for Ewing Jr. We signed a guy, Roberson, who went undrafted, but we jettison the guy, Ewing, who was a #2 pick who Walsh said he would've taken if he had another first round pick.

Basically we're a mess.
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10/27/2008  4:40 PM
Posted by Elite:
Posted by VDesai:

Roster moves have certainly been iffy so far. Roberson's never gonna get off the bench. With Jefferies hurt, Chandler having tweaked something, Curry out of shape, Danilo with the back etc.- P.E. Jr. actually had a shot to contribute a little in a pinch.

Good point! But at least we have Malik and Jerome!!!!!!


Dude...c'mon.
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10/27/2008  4:46 PM
I don't care what anyone says. Keeping Jerome James over Patrick Ewing Jr is a disgrace. Donnie Walsh is a moron. "Oh no we can't waste 13 mill by cutting Jerome." Hey idiot, you're still wasting 13 million year on Jerome either way! The guy wont play! At least keep a guy with some sort of potential on the roster and send him to the NBDL. I don't think Pat Ewing is going to be anything other than another Balkman and I don't think people would care that much if his name wasn't Ewing but I DO care because trying to justify Jerome James over anyone is a joke. Maybe OD Isiah is still running the show after all.
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10/27/2008  4:50 PM
FUCK THIS TEAM!!!!!!!! DONNIE THE SHORT LEASH YOU HAD WITH ME IS GONE!!!!!! I DONT THINK DONNIE KNOWS WHAT A SPIT IN THE FACE THIS IS TO KNICKS FANS!! I HOPE YOU ALL LET HIM KNOW WHEN YOU SEE HIM AND VOICE YOUR DISPLEASURE WITH THIS MOVE CUZ ITS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10/27/2008  4:53 PM
Posted by Elite:

FUCK THIS TEAM!!!!!!!! DONNIE THE SHORT LEASH YOU HAD WITH ME IS GONE!!!!!! I DONT THINK DONNIE KNOWS WHAT A SPIT IN THE FACE THIS IS TO KNICKS FANS!! I HOPE YOU ALL LET HIM KNOW WHEN YOU SEE HIM AND VOICE YOUR DISPLEASURE WITH THIS MOVE CUZ ITS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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10/27/2008  4:59 PM
I don't like that move at all...
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10/27/2008  5:21 PM
Posted by Elite:

[quote]Posted by VDesai:

Roster moves have certainly been iffy so far. Roberson's never gonna get off the bench. With Jefferies hurt, Chandler having tweaked something, Curry out of shape, Danilo with the back etc.- P.E. Jr. actually had a shot to contribute a little in a pinch.

Good point! But at least we have Malik and Jerome!!!!!!




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10/27/2008  5:42 PM
Unpopular move but I'm not surprised.

Seems like a waste though rushing to sign Roberson then inexplicably trading for a guaranteed contract in Ewing knowing you'd have to decide between the two.

Isiah did the same thing with Jared Jordan and Nichols last year.

Wasteful moves.

The one thing that really gets me is I'd much rather have Balkman and Ewing Jr on the roster than Malik and Jerome.

I'm tired of hearing it'd be wasteful to buy them out. It's going to cost you 20M total regardless. I'd rather those two never played for the Knicks again than trying to force them into games so you can reason keeping them. I also am sick and tired of trading expirings for other people's trash so again I don't value Malik's expiring nor Jeromes 2010 expiring on a trade front.

Oh well....on to the season I suppose. About 50 hours to go.
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