Posted by King1:

At the end of the year teams will be willing to pay Lee market or over market. Mark my word he will be in the top 3 in rebounding in the league and average about 14 points per game

I would not be surprised if your statistical prediction comes true.

If Lee gets market value, I say more power to him and I hope he gets that from us. If he gets over market value I say more power to him but he'll have to get that from somebody else.

Was the goal to sign him now for under market? I don't think Lee would have gone for that, and as David Lee's biggest fan outside of his mother, I don't think you would have liked that either.
by the way, I think Paul Millsap could be top 3 in rebounding and average at least 14 in this offense. he would probably have a lower field goal percentage than Lee, but still at least 50%, but he has more offensive ability so it would not be just dunks and layups, he would be a more dangerous threat. (Unless lee has added some moves I have not seen yet.)

I want Lee to Average 18/12 with much better D this year. Then it will be worthwhile to sign him to a big contract or we can trade him for a star shooting guard, or package him with Curry and get a real center.

oohah

Posted by King1:

SO lets say you let Lee leave after this year. You dont anyone and you dont get a 2010 free agent what is plan b build around Gallinari? I am not a agent but I would assume a player would take less for security. That is why you see these baseball players sign under market before they get to arbritration for security. Is Albert Pujouls agent an idiot because he makes 13 million a year becasue they locked him up early. If he goes to free agency he gets 20 million a year. At the end of the year teams will be willing to pay Lee market or over market. Mark my word he will be in the top 3 in rebounding in the league and average about 14 points per game

There's like 8 FAs in 2010 who are better players than we've had on our team in the past decade. You're telling me plans will fall through for every one of them? That said, we should have traded Jamal and Curry by now. Then we'd have room to re-sign Lee, consider trading Zach, and pursue a big FA in 2010.

Does it really matter how you get your points? If you shoot 55% from the field I dont care if you squirt the shot out of your ass. The Knicks knew Lee wanted to be here and yes I think you get a discount if the person doest have to worry about injury or a bad season. After this year your looking at another team driving the price up or controlling it. A good team is going to appreciate someone with high character, unselfish, hard worker, and a good teammate more this team

He cannot sign until July 1st and there is no way anyone will trade for him without a contract.

Posted by King1:

Does it really matter how you get your points? If you shoot 55% from the field I dont care if you squirt the shot out of your ass.

Of course it matters. I'm surprised you don't realize this. I think you are blinded by your love for Lee.

If it didn't matter you could have a point guard and 4 centers. Historically Lee is only a threat to score off of transition feeds and put-backs around the basket. If it doesn't matter as long as you shoot a high percentage, Eddy Curry is great by your logic, right?

That is why skilled players like Kevin Durant or Josh Smith are so prized. If you are only a threat to score around the rim you are less dangerous than a guy who can score inside and out, or make a slashing move and take your man.

Come on King, seriously...

oohah




[Edited by - oohah on 24-10-2008 10:37 AM]

Posted by King1:

You have options with Lee, but you handcuff the team. Let's say next year do you draft a big or a guard. You draft a guard then you have to sign Lee and you're at the mercy of another team giving a huge offer. You draft a big you have no idea what you're getting you know what Lee is going to bring to the table. Lee is going to be your best player this year and it will cost you more money to sign him next year than if you signed him right now.

Only teams way under the cap can give out a huge offer and as much as Lee is liked I don't see anyone breaking the bank for him. At best every year 3-5 teams can offer a large contract to a free agent. If you're in the FA market well under the cap would you blow your wad on Lee next summer when the following summer offers Wade, Bosh, LeBron? Nah, probably not, right?

Even if he has a monster season his agent already asked for a ludicrous amount of money of which would still be too high of an asking price even if David had say a 17/10 year.

I think we're in the drivers seat with this one more than you'd think.

its a tough call, I can see the reasons for signing Lee (and nate) now... but I can also see the reasons for waiting..... Personally I would have at least started some negotiations and tried to see what they were asking.. if it was reasonable.. do it!!!

Whats the point in not even having negotiations?? Try, if its too much.. wait... i dont get it

Posted by King1:

I guarantee you if Lee took 6 jumpers a game he would he two of them.

So if Lee got 6 totally uncontested 15 foot jumpers he would hit 2 of them? Is that supposed to be impressive? That sounds like an incentive to let him shoot.

Compare that to Udonis Haslem who will(and has historically) make 7-8 out of 10 uncontested from 15 feet. Or Carlos Boozer. Or....

This is Lee's year to prove he is more than a Junkyard Dog type of player minus the defense. If he is, I would shower him with $$$!

oohah

oohah that isnt impressive but when you shoot 45% from the field and 25% from the three like Josh Smith does that isnt impressive either. Oohah what does Lee have to do this year to get paid?

Posted by King1:

oohah that isnt impressive but when you shoot 45% from the field and 25% from the three like Josh Smith does that isnt impressive either. Oohah what does Lee have to do this year to get paid?

I already explained what Lee has to do above . He'll get paid well either way. The question is what does he have to do to get star money and I explained that above too. I don't have an inflated view of what Lee's skillset is like you do. when Lee can do all the things that star forwards like Boozer or some of the other guys I mentioned do, the money will come!

I am not a huge Josh Smith fan but he has some skills that Lee currently can't touch, we both know this. What would Lee shoot from 3 point range? 6 percent? Anyway, I would prefer he didn't shoot from there. I want him to shoot like Udonis Haslem does. Kill you from 15 feet if you don't guard him.

oohah

Chandler averaged 1 block a game last year.