Posted by NYK3:

has Q played at all in the 2nd half?

A big reason why we improved our play from the 1st quarter is q's absense.

I im dantoni q rich has avery short leash with astud like chandler behind him and all these hungry gaurds

Posted by NewYorkSoul:

anyone notice D'A is playing his best players 30+ mins a game, while our two opponents are only playing their's ~24?

Good game. We have two 20-10 players[or very close to it] and a bunch of guys who can score. If we can get Curry to play well on the second unit--take out Rose --we should win 45. When you start having guys like Marbury on your second unit--you should be pretty good. Also Id rather see Chandler starting instead of Q.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by NewYorkSoul:

anyone notice D'A is playing his best players 30+ mins a game, while our two opponents are only playing their's ~24?

Good game. We have two 20-10 players[or very close to it] and a bunch of guys who can score. If we can get Curry to play well on the second unit--take out Rose --we should win 45. When you start having guys like Marbury on your second unit--you should be pretty good. Also Id rather see Chandler starting instead of Q.

pretty much my thoughts exactly

Posted by NewYorkSoul:

anyone notice D'A is playing his best players 30+ mins a game, while our two opponents are only playing their's ~24?

Come on dude, don't study it. This isn't a game. The Knicks have a lot to prove. They have to play guys minutes. The Knicks are a laughing stock........all I gotta say is enjoy these Knicks and get that pride back. This game was pre-season but it was pretty awesome.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Elite:

if we could trade Curry for a shotblocking athletic baackup center then we'd really be in business...... and if Danillo could come in and erase Q Rich... yes

Yeah, there is a very big who fits, who doesn't, theme going on here.

I think you give Crawford a little more time.

Q looks like he's still a bum unfortunately.

Malik is OBVIOUSLY a bum.

No way Houston can do this.

Curry, eh, role player at best here, 15 minutes a night - so you try to move him.

Randolph looks real good in this system but I just don't know about the future with him.

Duhon redeemed himself so I guess he can do this but we can't be fooled he's a mediocre player.

Nate looks great. Marbury looks very good.

Jeffries might do well in this.

Lee obviously is great.

Collins is impressive because he was such a bum last year and now is in much better shape and seems to grasp the concept.


Overall I'd say I'm quite surprised, just 2 games in, how they've done.

Of course, let's not be fooled, the Sixers didn't play their vets but for half a game so we were beating up on their bench at times. Toronto, kinda the same, so lets hold off until we declare any of this a success.

Yet, it's obvious what players do and don't fit. That seems to come about rather quickly.

Fuckin awesome aint it!?!?!?

There was one play that I really enjoyed. Marbury took the ball up on a pass from Lee and then passed it behind him to Duhon. Duhon passed it back to Marbury after he got some separation. Then Marbury went back to Duhon who made a wide open three. It seemed like a lot of passes, but they were all good, crisp, purposeful passes which lead to an open three.

Posted by Ira:

There was one play that I really enjoyed. Marbury took the ball up on a pass from Lee and then passed it behind him to Duhon. Duhon passed it back to Marbury after he got some separation. Then Marbury went back to Duhon who made a wide open three. It seemed like a lot of passes, but they were all good, crisp, purposeful passes which lead to an open three.

agreed. that was nice.

i also agree that marbury actually looks good enough to be traded at this point. he's in fantastic shape, it honestly seems like 2004 since he's been in this kind of shape. walsh is in a tough spot with him. i think miami or golden state still might be interested.


but i guess the real question is: is there anyway we can keep him? best guard unit out there last night was when marbury and duhon were on the floor together. best ball movement and best spacing because marbury can slash to the paint with ease again and duhon can keep folks honest with his shooting.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 11-10-2008 11:35 AM]

seeing as tho Elton Brand completely demolished us in the 1st quarter & got very limited burn in the 2nd half, i'm gonna take this game w/a huge grain of salt... the Knicks' 1st stringers were out there vs. the Sixers 2nd team for much of the game in fact.

individually i loved what i saw outta D Lee... that midrange jumper he's developed is gonna do wonders for his game... why can't all our guys be like this kid? he comes in every year w/another skillset added to his repertoire... next thing for him to learn is some help defense, tho in a D'Antoni system i'm glad he decided to work on his jumpshot this offseason instead.

Zach looked pretty good but he's still forcing up shots as usual & i still see the same ol' Steph on the court... yeah the guy can play, no one ever doubted that about him, but he's still the same player guys... don't be fooled by his trim down look & BS words about being a team player this year... as soon as this team starts to lose games again the same ol' Starbury -3 will rear its ugly head.

Duhon & Mardy Collins even looked pretty good & impressed me... Duhon especially, he can really stroke the open 3, which will be huge for us this season... Mardy had a pretty vicious drive the lane dunk in the game too... he doesn't look nearly as lost on the floor as he did last season, but again, it's a preseason game.

overall i see the same ol' Knicks pretty much other than D Lee's added jumpshot & Duhon.

Posted by TMS:

seeing as tho Elton Brand completely demolished us in the 1st quarter & got very limited burn in the 2nd half, i'm gonna take this game w/a huge grain of salt... the Knicks' 1st stringers were out there vs. the Sixers 2nd team for much of the game in fact.

individually i loved what i saw outta D Lee... that midrange jumper he's developed is gonna do wonders for his game... why can't all our guys be like this kid? he comes in every year w/another skillset added to his repertoire... next thing for him to learn is some help defense, tho in a D'Antoni system i'm glad he decided to work on his jumpshot this offseason instead.

Zach looked pretty good but he's still forcing up shots as usual & i still see the same ol' Steph on the court... yeah the guy can play, no one ever doubted that about him, but he's still the same player guys... don't be fooled by his trim down look & BS words about being a team player this year... as soon as this team starts to lose games again the same ol' Starbury -3 will rear its ugly head.

Duhon & Mardy Collins even looked pretty good & impressed me... Duhon especially, he can really stroke the open 3, which will be huge for us this season... Mardy had a pretty vicious drive the lane dunk in the game too... he doesn't look nearly as lost on the floor as he did last season, but again, it's a preseason game.

overall i see the same ol' Knicks pretty much other than D Lee's added jumpshot & Duhon.

I agree, zach and steph seem like they want to play team ball, but you know how old habits are hard to break. They both have a boat load of confidence which is why they tend to force the issue sometimes or to many times for the matter. I saw some nice team work by both in the raptors game, as well as 2nd, but there were a couple of times zach look to force the up, and the whats worse ( in a way) is that they either get the bucket or the foul. It's up to MDA to get them out of that mind set.