Posted by knicks1248:

So all of the praise's Mike d as been giving us about how the team is anxious to learn how to win and learn his system, means nothing. You guys are killing me with this zach and Steph BS like we were world beaters with out them...Think again...WE sucked with out them even more.

Can we judge them once we see the new evidence.

My god dude, what's it gonna take to convince some of you that suckbury is a complete and total loser and is the most destructive force the Knicks franchise has ever seen. How much longer do ya need? Wasn't four to five years long enough to know that he will never work out for any team in the league? I'm not completely sure, but I think that is what your saying.

Its time to turn the page from the me first, 'all alone' player. D'Antoni already did this once. His accepting the job, saying he needed an engine, and Walsh signing Duhon to the max exemption amount signaled that the plan was to get rid of him. Marbury is still in NY because of Dolan.

Posted by BRIGGS:

The guys that they were desperately trying to get rid of Marbury and Randolph are probably the two best players on the team and may help the team more than they relaize and the guys that the new regime went after Duhon Roberson and Gallinari all have been bad or injured so far.

how much do u think they've helped this team in the time they've been here? just curious... does anyone ever learn anything from the past or do we all just wanna keep spinning our tires in the mud hoping to get someplace?