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8/16/2008  4:35 PM
Posted by VDesai:

The most important thing you need to know about Woody Allen is that he's brought together Scarlett Johansson and Penelope Cruz and got them to make out on screen.

Amen.
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8/16/2008  8:51 PM
Posted by 4949:

I'm not portraying anything else other than what we know and what the law says. I'd hate to hang the guy, because if any of us was in that situation, I"d want a fair judgment also. Wouldn't you?

So are you saying there were molestation charges. Do you know for a fact he molested? Why bring it up if you don't know? It was thrown out! I'm not making it up. Also a lot of people don't know it, but Woody was cleared by a second group of people who did a psychological evaluation test on him. He was cleared.

I thought I made it clear that Woody got none of the children. And we don't know exactly why' the child didn't want to see him anymore. Has he seen or talked to him since? We don't know. It doesn't mean a thing.

You say I'm trying to make this out to be a 'no big thing?' Well then tell me what he did wrong exactly that broke any laws? You act like it was your' head that he f-ck'd with and destroyed your family. Why do you hate him so much? That's the thing I'm curious about.

And the only thing that I acknowledged about being wrong was the children got hurt in all that mess. You must understand. I'm only going by facts and what we know, because we don't know anymore than what's been said by the courts, the counseling, etc. Anyway, I'm disappointed in him, the way he went about it, but who am I to hang the guy? I"m nobody to him or that family. If' something happened, then the truth will eventually come out, but until then if anything, there's not much weight to it. As it turns out, it's just one of the strangest relationships I myself ever seen and that's all I know.

So if you had all power, what would you' do to Woody? I mean anything you wanted to, what would you do?

Still with the legal angle and talk of hate and punishment? I've got news for you, it's perfectly legal to mess your children's heads up royally. Happens all the time, I just don't condone it.

All I've done here is had compassion for the rest of his family, just as I would for you and yours if your dad was cheating on your mom with your sister, and then married your sister. And then your mom disowned your sister and dad, and you also disowned your dad.

But don't sweat it, I'll just stick my sympathy up my anus so you wont have to defend your dad - or anyone else - from my sympathy.

Feel better now?

I've got nothing more to add.
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8/17/2008  12:49 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by VDesai:

The most important thing you need to know about Woody Allen is that he's brought together Scarlett Johansson and Penelope Cruz and got them to make out on screen.

Amen.

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8/17/2008  9:17 AM
Cheating on your girlfriend is wrong, but is not punished by the laws of society, but the male in the relationship does receive negative repercussion in the forms of family and friends viewing you as an unfaithful, dishonest person. Even though cheating on your girl/boyfriend happens frequently and is not punished by the laws of society, it doesn't mean cheating is accepted by society.

Woody cheating on his girlfriend with his adopted daughter is wrong on multiple fronts: 1) Woody is being unfaithful to his girlfriend of 12 years 2) Woody ruined the family relationship 3) Woody, a 50 year old man, is taking advantage of his teenage daughter inferior reasoning ability

This list of what he's done wrong, using society standards, can go on. Even though he was not punished by the laws of society, it doesn't mean our society condone what he did. The majority of our society will say what he did is inappropriate and unacceptable, even if there is no punishment given. If you've don't think what he did was wrong for the above reasons, then you're one of the minority, and do not agree with all of the moral standards currently placed in society.
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8/19/2008  1:42 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by 4949:

I'm not portraying anything else other than what we know and what the law says. I'd hate to hang the guy, because if any of us was in that situation, I"d want a fair judgment also. Wouldn't you?

So are you saying there were molestation charges. Do you know for a fact he molested? Why bring it up if you don't know? It was thrown out! I'm not making it up. Also a lot of people don't know it, but Woody was cleared by a second group of people who did a psychological evaluation test on him. He was cleared.

I thought I made it clear that Woody got none of the children. And we don't know exactly why' the child didn't want to see him anymore. Has he seen or talked to him since? We don't know. It doesn't mean a thing.

You say I'm trying to make this out to be a 'no big thing?' Well then tell me what he did wrong exactly that broke any laws? You act like it was your' head that he f-ck'd with and destroyed your family. Why do you hate him so much? That's the thing I'm curious about.

And the only thing that I acknowledged about being wrong was the children got hurt in all that mess. You must understand. I'm only going by facts and what we know, because we don't know anymore than what's been said by the courts, the counseling, etc. Anyway, I'm disappointed in him, the way he went about it, but who am I to hang the guy? I"m nobody to him or that family. If' something happened, then the truth will eventually come out, but until then if anything, there's not much weight to it. As it turns out, it's just one of the strangest relationships I myself ever seen and that's all I know.

So if you had all power, what would you' do to Woody? I mean anything you wanted to, what would you do?


All I've done here is had compassion for the rest of his family, just as I would for you and yours if your dad was cheating on your mom with your sister, and then married your sister. And then your mom disowned your sister and dad, and you also disowned your dad.

But don't sweat it, I'll just stick my sympathy up my anus so you wont have to defend your dad - or anyone else - from my sympathy.

Feel better now?

I've got nothing more to add.

Well I certainly do!

BlueSeats, I'd like to let it go to, but man' what you just said above 'that's sick man'! MY dad marrying my sister?!!!! You sure are twisting this into something that is totally untrue man.

Your insinuating that Woody Allan married his daughter?!!! IT NEVER WAS HIS DAUGHTER!!! Come on dude, stop it! And why throw in 'do I feel better now' for? You don't have to start getting disgusting. lol
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8/19/2008  2:02 AM
Posted by Hank:

Cheating on your girlfriend is wrong, but is not punished by the laws of society, but the male in the relationship does receive negative repercussion in the forms of family and friends viewing you as an unfaithful, dishonest person. Even though cheating on your girl/boyfriend happens frequently and is not punished by the laws of society, it doesn't mean cheating is accepted by society.

Woody cheating on his girlfriend with his adopted daughter is wrong on multiple fronts: 1) Woody is being unfaithful to his girlfriend of 12 years 2) Woody ruined the family relationship 3) Woody, a 50 year old man, is taking advantage of his teenage daughter inferior reasoning ability

This list of what he's done wrong, using society standards, can go on. Even though he was not punished by the laws of society, it doesn't mean our society condone what he did. The majority of our society will say what he did is inappropriate and unacceptable, even if there is no punishment given. If you've don't think what he did was wrong for the above reasons, then you're one of the minority, and do not agree with all of the moral standards currently placed in society.

Screw morality. Morality is a fools game. It's a joke, because some of the biggest morality pushers are a bunch of dirty old closet cases! What you said above is basically what I have been saying. Nobody likes what he did. That's a no brainer, if you have a conscience and a fair and logical brain. And my point has been is what you are saying and that is 'what laws has he broken'? None! People can create their own moral judgments, but it's more than just Woody that this moral judgment represents. It's a mask of bigotry on many, many topics.

How can one express a thought, without being judged is what I'm talking about. It's like I'm being convicted by association. Like being convicted because I refuse to support this so called morality. Do I have a point? Maybe we should go after guys like R. Kelly and maybe O.J. again, because they were 'morally wrong. No need to get all bent. It's just an example and one I hope you guys can see. Otherwise, I have no case here.

Thank God we have no 'morality laws', because next they'd start condoning stoning again. Long live Democracy.
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8/19/2008  11:10 AM
He is making a lot of movies with Scarlett Johannson these days...

Very young and very beautiful...

Hmmmm...



[Edited by - Paladin55 on 08-19-2008 11:10 AM]
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8/19/2008  2:35 PM
she goes to more knick games a year than do most of us.

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8/19/2008  3:15 PM
Posted by Nalod:

she goes to more knick games a year than do most of us.

she got more dinero to burn than most of us.
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8/19/2008  3:41 PM
and on top of that her boobs are real

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8/20/2008  2:38 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Nalod:

she goes to more knick games a year than do most of us.

she got more dinero to burn than most of us.


No doubt, but woody a is not just a celeb hitting the games, he is long time a season tix holder and his women is a fan also.

Its a good conversation and all good points.

Since I have a daughter I understand the yucky feeling some have when thinking about this subject of being a guardian even if its not biological.

Lets hope that if their relationship became an intelectual one then its all good. Not just woody getting creepy some kind of weird "sucky phuchy bangy bangy" fetish for her.

Since they are fans even in bad times, lets judge them on that.
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8/21/2008  2:48 PM
It's objectively wrong. Him and Mia were functionally married. He scoped out their (adopted) daughter and declared right when it was legal. Trying to say that anyone objecting is just an ethnocentric pig is rephrehensible. BTW in the middle East you'd (or she'd)be executed for adultery in this one.
Posted by ramtour420:

Scumbag? FYI in the midle east and i think Israel legal marrying age is 12. Thats right. Girls at 11 are able to get pregnant and at 12 they are considered women. I know this might be a bit hard to grasp for americans cause american way is the only way and everything different makes you a scumbag. I have a 11 month old daughter and i wouldn't want her to get married at 12 i think cutting someones childhood short like that has to suck.

As for the 35 year difference sure its extreme but don't forget women go though menopause at like what 50-55? And 70 year old guys still wanna do it. so Woody has much larger room to operate in , he'll be able to bone her in his 8o's. So while just about all of us will be jacking off he'll be doing it. And asian women don't get fat as they get older so she'll probably still be ****able at 50. Eny, it just seems like you are jealous since it really seems to bother you.

And here is the important part. If they are happy together all of this discussion is just garbage cause it really don't matter what any of us think.

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8/22/2008  1:11 AM
Posted by nykshaknbake:

It's objectively wrong. Him and Mia were functionally married. He scoped out their (adopted) daughter and declared right when it was legal. Trying to say that anyone objecting is just an ethnocentric pig is rephrehensible. BTW in the middle East you'd (or she'd)be executed for adultery in this one.
Posted by ramtour420:

Scumbag? FYI in the midle east and i think Israel legal marrying age is 12. Thats right. Girls at 11 are able to get pregnant and at 12 they are considered women. I know this might be a bit hard to grasp for americans cause american way is the only way and everything different makes you a scumbag. I have a 11 month old daughter and i wouldn't want her to get married at 12 i think cutting someones childhood short like that has to suck.

As for the 35 year difference sure its extreme but don't forget women go though menopause at like what 50-55? And 70 year old guys still wanna do it. so Woody has much larger room to operate in , he'll be able to bone her in his 8o's. So while just about all of us will be jacking off he'll be doing it. And asian women don't get fat as they get older so she'll probably still be ****able at 50. Eny, it just seems like you are jealous since it really seems to bother you.

And here is the important part. If they are happy together all of this discussion is just garbage cause it really don't matter what any of us think.

In the Middle East adultery is punishable by stoning. Sharing a carpool , working together or living together doesn't make you married. Since Woody wasn't married it would not be considered adultery. Also, penetration must be present to obtain a conviction, 4 men of good character must attest the act of penetration. This detail makes it nearly impossible to get convicted
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