... I knew you'd like that one.

pike i cant believe you going to sit there and say that.

You know i don't like Steve nash but he is not a euro player.

I never said a thing about dirk,ginolbi or pega.

if anything i defended pega when tkf and prod were killing him in that webber debate.

tkf see you showed what you made of when you didn't corectly say no pike it was me, not ice.

Pike you getting old, tkf had the debate with lying Vee during the pre olympic trials

Actually Ice; It was ralphy boy and I that had the debate and what you are forgetting is that I was talking about a lot of the euro players on that team, you classified all euro players and I said before that I was a gasol fan from the start. Now prod and i was dogging pedja because he choked, not because he was a scrub...

You are confused dukes..

Ice: I didn't correct pike because I know you two were arguing about something but I didn't quite remember, but you were calling the euro guys all hype just a few months ago. Don't let me go and pull that thread!!!

Posted by Pike:

... pull that thread, brother. Ice said that after five or six players, Europeans were vastly overrated... while I argued the EUROPEANS ARE COMING!!... and the trend will continue with better and better players making their mark in the NBA.

Nah, I'm not old.

selective memory Pike, Ice has selective memory.. I will look for that thread for sure.. And I remember because I agreed with him saying that not all the euro players are the next dirk or pedja according to most...

but you are right, they are comming, I think I underrated them a bit..

tkf i used to respect you but if you come in here saying you never said odom was as good as kobe i lost all respect for you. i cant respect a liar nuff said. no bait, thats serious talk.

pull the thread pike or ice, it was the fact we are overrating euro players, not they are bums,

I said for the most part the crowd of euro players are average nba players, that was the seemingly missed point, and that there are only three all star euro players, pull the thread i dare you.

TKF if you haven't notice ralphie boy is flying VEE, thats how on top of my game i am. you dont even remember who you lied to clown.

Tkf i am not the only cat that knows about your tirade on duncan the streets is watching and trust me your card has been pulled so many times it aint funny.

it's not about being argumentative, even tho i am, but it's about hypocrites and liars, you had a tirade about the euro players and it was so funny to see you look so stupid going off to ralphie boy and the very next day the united states got there azz kicked.lol.

i remember clear as day you commenting on Pepe Sanchez and Ginolbi, you comments word for word was they could never amount to crap in the nba. you saying you didnt say this???

You came to the daily news site as a newbie for the first to weeks me and you debated if odom was as good as kobe now you didn't say that.

You want to deflect the debate by saying i am a front runner, What does that have to do with anything we talking about?? thats called deflection holmes it's weak.

And not even a year later you claimed you never siad Dirk was a bum???? oh he was not a top five player and Soft but you absolutely love him! you know how stupid you look. We all remember you killing Dirk and Kenyon. on a daily basis. comical.

My guess is if you talk long enough you will get caught lying again, i bet you come on here saying you never liked marvin jones .

Deny what you want call me what you want. this topic is done, i proved you are a lying fraud. you and i know the time.

pike the point is not about whether euro players are good,
if tkf doesn't like euro players kool no problem. i am not the biggest fan of them either, most of them are overrated.

but don't go on a tirade about euro players for a year then when we get lampe start saying how much you like his inside outside games and start comparing him to other euro players.

thats my whole point i f got nothing to do with me being a front runner, this guy is calling me a twister and is pulling up a bogus personal opinion on me, who is twisting.

The kobe odom case is a lie and the tkf watch proves he is a liar thats my last comment, on this,

Another thing, Ice get your facts straight!!! ralphy boy and I were arguing about the US sending over a team of the NBA best players, like Kobe, shaq, duncan etc... that was the argument and we got on this topic after the games were over, stop twisting..!!!

Next you mention pepe sanchez..LOL!!!!! I guess you proved my point on him, what the hell has he done? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

give it up man!!!!!

Posted by Pike:

... leave me out of this, man. I just pointed out to the two of you that basketball is exploding in Europe... and the more kids that play hoop, the more players that will make it in the NBA... the more players that make it in the NBA... the more Dirk's and Peja's... it's simple math, gentlemen.

Pike I agree, if anyone should have a beef it is you because I argued you down on this also, I admit I underestimated the impact of euro players, I still am not a big fan, but this topic is ridiculous. I always liked Gasol, and although I think dirk is soft, he is a skilled player... I compared lampes skills to gasol and dirks, why that is a issue is ridiculous.

I will leave you out of this, and I will leave it alone because this has gotten ridiculous, we go from lampe, to pepe sanches and ginobili, where that fits in I don't know..