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playa2
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7/28/2008  6:17 PM
The C.I.A. and other alphabet soup agencies continue to basically go about unchecked spying on Americans and just having the time of their lives

A waste-of-life & resources far WORSE than Vietnam and lasting longer than the U.S. involvement in WW II continues to drag out

War profiteers are making record profits from these times


And remember that our president J.F.K., he owed NO ONE "favors," being financed through his Father and his Dad's friends & associates;A self-made man so to speak.

This is why he was whacked, he wasn't down with the plan.


This world (the known & unknown power-brokers) have NO desire for another J.F.K. and sure don't want an intelligent, motivated populace to think for themselves and truly feel proud to be an American once again.
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7/28/2008  9:50 PM
"Did you guys know that NYC's population equals that of 39 states total??? That should give you an idea of just how rural this country is and that 39 states do not speak for everyone. That means 11 states have the population power and we know those are major metropolitan areas. "

The above statement is incorrect. I was very surprised when I read that statement, and thought it was a pretty cool angle to look at the United States. But since I lived in Louisiana and Michigan, and know their population size, the numbers did not add up. Below are the population for the 20th-30th most populous state. The total for those 10 states are about 51 million, while NY is about 19 million.

In case you're curious, I heard somewhere before, the 200 most populous cities in the US makes up about 1/4 of the US population (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population


3 3 New York 19,297,729

...
20 20 Wisconsin 5,601,640
21 21 Minnesota 5,197,621
22 22 Colorado 4,861,515
23 23 Alabama 4,627,851
24 24 South Carolina 4,407,709
25 25 Louisiana 4,293,204
26 26 Kentucky 4,241,474
A 27 Puerto Rico 3,941,459
27 28 Oregon 3,747,455
28 29 Oklahoma 3,617,316
29 30 Connecticut 3,502,309
30 31 Iowa 2,988,046
...
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7/28/2008  10:00 PM
I didn't thoroughly read all of the posts, but I have to say, I would rather spend my time doing something I enjoy rather than live in fear and paranoia. And, if and when Big Brother finally does come down on us, let us have a revolution, and have John Connor and Neo to lead us in the fight for humanity and freedom.
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7/28/2008  10:41 PM
Posted by Hank:

And, if and when Big Brother finally does come down on us, let us have a revolution, and have John Connor and Neo to lead us in the fight for humanity and freedom.
That would be too late wouldn't it? Neo and John O'Connor were representing the group that lost. I see where you are coming from Hank, but I also see where playa is coming from. It's very hard to recognize a series of a devious and destructive events and ignore it.
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7/29/2008  11:15 AM
Playa,

who wrote that? Never have so many words said so little.

Im not sure what to make of all that. IM sure you did not write it.

What supprise would it be that in the last 50 years any republican cabinet would be filled with ex-military executives as advisors or apppointees? Rebulican Cabinet members are usually chock full of participants that were formally in the private sector. And, in the coming years you'll read about how they took avantage of their positions eiher by involving contractors who later enriched them, or used the gov't jet for personal use.

THis is not anything new, and no more a conpsiricy than THIS IS HOW IT WORKS! And has for years.

Naturally Isreal and the US are very much in favor of regime changes that are not fundamentally based. Is it wrong for the country to not want lunatics in power? Its wrong now for us to want to rid ourselves of the Hitlers of the world?

Does this benefit the US economy more then helping the Hitlers in Africa where there is no ecnomic benefit? Of course. Is this fair to all? No. Does it benefit African-Americans? I don't think so. Is that fair? Nope. Does the economy benefit African-Americans? Yep. Do African Americans work in military factories? Yep.

I can't cover all the bases, but I think sometimes Playa you look at the world as an African-American (How else right?) but not from different perspectives.

Lets get back to subject, what and how will concentration camps benefit the rich? The economy? Social Security? Health Car? Business?
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7/29/2008  6:01 PM
Cheap labor
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7/29/2008  7:38 PM
Posted by playa2:

Cheap labor

For whom?

Stay with here bro, Im not trapping you, just discussing.

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7/30/2008  5:28 PM
Corporations.
Do the research
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7/31/2008  12:17 AM
what research?

In your scenario, the corps fire the workers, then brings in slaves?

Who buys the goods and services? Slaves don't have an encomic basis to exist.

This does not make sense. Nazi's used enslaved employment primarily for the war effort.

we not talking the most effecient work force either.
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7/31/2008  5:24 AM
We will all know oneday, if we knew now it wouldn't be a secret.
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7/31/2008  11:24 AM
Posted by playa2:

We will all know oneday, if we knew now it wouldn't be a secret.

Playa, thats weak man!

You can't be running around saying this stuff without a plausable socio-ecnomic reason for it to happen, or to whom it benefits.

Nazi Germany industrial machine was nationalized. The companies were hijacked from their owners and told what and how to do it. They were given slave labor but profitability was never the outcome. The war machine was. Since the Nazis had borrowed money from global investment bankers, that to whom the companies were given to after the war.

So your arguement or comparisons don't hold up. Jumping off and saying "at least you were warned" is weak. That paranoia rhetoric is similar to the Timothy Mcvie white militia bull they spout about government taking over.

What your talking about is really only plausable in a regime change in the united states. Social Dictatorship? Communist purge?

Sorry, this Byron Weeks fella is really out of his mind. Im not expert in all this subject but even I can punch holes in his theory.

It is irresponsable to promote others opinions unless the source is credible and has some factual content. While Mr. Weeks is entitled to his opinion, as are you, one must have some kind of plausable scenario that some form of a theory could work.

I have read the stuff you send over and it is interesting, but not credible form of journalism at any level. Some dude filming the rail yard does not make for any factual content. The guy is a wack job.

You have said you have "heard" or "seen" things and pass along as first person testimony. That is not credible. Nor is cutting and pasting others peoples work without who it is, their position and experience. Thus non of it is credible.

Im sure that even adds to the depth of the conspiricy. A great line used when legends are made fact.

If Colin Powell said some intense things, I'd have to take it far more responsable journalism. If Buzz Aldrin says he saw little green men, thats pretty credible. Buzz might have lost a few cells over the years, and if so thats another story.

Im not saying our Government is not full of scandals and lilly white clean, but there is a limit not to what is going on, but the way it is told.



[Edited by - Nalod on 31-07-2008 11:27 AM]
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7/31/2008  11:49 AM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by playa2:

We will all know oneday, if we knew now it wouldn't be a secret.

Playa, thats weak man!

You can't be running around saying this stuff without a plausable socio-ecnomic reason for it to happen, or to whom it benefits.

Nalod why do you want someone to try and convince you that wrestling is phony, or why do you want people to believe professional sports are on the up and up ?


The credible people who you desire to prove their credibility would never speakup to expose everything that's done on this level of corruption, they have too much to lose. And those who are capable are snuffed out.

That only leaves those who people like you won't believe are credible but who understands what is going on.

So you keep waiting on some super insider credible guy like colin powell who has probaly been sworn to secrecy like so many others. THEY WILL NEVER TALK AND LIVE !

So the only credible sources you are going to find in the present are guys whom mainstream calls kooks , whack jobs etc...


And I thought you knew a lil something big brother

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7/31/2008  1:55 PM

Predictable answer: default to "getting snuffed out".


I guess we'll never know the truth until it does not happen?

Hey listen my friend, Im going on vacation for 19 days and will be off the internet. I am actually going to be in South America. So it is known, Nalod was not snuffed out for exposing Playa, nor will I be looking at any land to buy in the event I am indicted on conspiricy charges, nor fleeing with hedge fund money, nor getting plastic surgery, nor in a cuban rehab center (I said: No-no-no), nor getting jiggy with Kabala, or taking peyote theropy with some shamans. Just going to hug a few volcanoes, take pictures in the Galapogos and climb mountains in Peru with the wife and kids.

Stay safe, and don't fret when I don't call you out on your quest to disclose the "THEY's" from what they really are. I'll just be fighting intestinal parasites and cursing them as a conspiricy to keep me quiet!
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7/31/2008  2:39 PM
It's obvious big brother.....YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
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7/31/2008  5:46 PM
Posted by playa2:

It's obvious big brother.....YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

Its obvious, your delusional little bro!

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8/4/2008  1:22 PM
Naw bro I call it like it is.

People who understand what fascism really is can see that it is what's coming to America.

Mussolini used the term and he said a better term for it would corporatism which is when corporations take over the state.

Is there any doubt that describes america today?

What is America if not an entity run by corporations?

Corporations has influence over government officials, they have privatized:

*The military - Black water which is obviously exempt from alot of laws and restrictions that govern our real military.. private army

*Prisons - prisons are now a money making business. maybe that why we lock up soo many people in this country... its big business

*Jobs - landscape is almost totally controlled by corporations so much so that the REAL american dream of people who own their businesses and control their own futures is all but dead.

*Schools- they are even corporatizing schools now... they are experimenting on poorer school districts to find a model that will make them profit.

Corporations increasingly run the state and the best interest of the corporation is what is important anymore, Americans need to wake up and fix this really.
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8/5/2008  11:06 PM
Posted by Hank:

"Did you guys know that NYC's population equals that of 39 states total??? That should give you an idea of just how rural this country is and that 39 states do not speak for everyone. That means 11 states have the population power and we know those are major metropolitan areas. "

The above statement is incorrect. I was very surprised when I read that statement, and thought it was a pretty cool angle to look at the United States. But since I lived in Louisiana and Michigan, and know their population size, the numbers did not add up. Below are the population for the 20th-30th most populous state. The total for those 10 states are about 51 million, while NY is about 19 million.

In case you're curious, I heard somewhere before, the 200 most populous cities in the US makes up about 1/4 of the US population (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population


3 3 New York 19,297,729

...
20 20 Wisconsin 5,601,640
21 21 Minnesota 5,197,621
22 22 Colorado 4,861,515
23 23 Alabama 4,627,851
24 24 South Carolina 4,407,709
25 25 Louisiana 4,293,204
26 26 Kentucky 4,241,474
A 27 Puerto Rico 3,941,459
27 28 Oregon 3,747,455
28 29 Oklahoma 3,617,316
29 30 Connecticut 3,502,309
30 31 Iowa 2,988,046
...

I got the information off of Wikipedia. The information is still there under 'Demographics of New York City' (check it out, fascinating information), and it actually says what I stated above. BUT' I just went through the numbers myself and figured out that the information is misquoted. The actual figure is that 'the city of New York has a larger population then state - by - state.' 39 states to be exact. Still a fascinating stat and I still contend that it shows how rural the U.S. really is in the middle. Thanks for pointing this out Hank so I could correct it.
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8/5/2008  11:18 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Hank:

And, if and when Big Brother finally does come down on us, let us have a revolution, and have John Connor and Neo to lead us in the fight for humanity and freedom.
That would be too late wouldn't it? Neo and John O'Connor were representing the group that lost. I see where you are coming from Hank, but I also see where playa is coming from. It's very hard to recognize a series of a devious and destructive events and ignore it.

We all have a number. We just don't know what it is and you can only hope that you are not in the wrong place at the wrong time. Think of it this way, and i don't mean to be insensitive, but if you 'wanted' to be at the world trade center when it was all going down, to pick the day and time would be like trying to win the lottery. In other words, even if you are at high level areas of whatever interest someone might be interested in, most likely nothing would happen to you personally. lIke I said, I don't mean to be insensitive. It's all mathematics. People climb up to an active volcano's edge and it could explode at any time. Thousands go up and every once in a great while, only a few are killed. Mathematics. What's your number? So in answer to any conspiracy's, short of nuclear holocaust, the great majority of people (if not every single one of them) should survive. Even under martial law.
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8/5/2008  11:39 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by playa2:

We will all know oneday, if we knew now it wouldn't be a secret.

Playa, thats weak man!

You can't be running around saying this stuff without a plausable socio-ecnomic reason for it to happen, or to whom it benefits.

Nazi Germany industrial machine was nationalized. The companies were hijacked from their owners and told what and how to do it. They were given slave labor but profitability was never the outcome. The war machine was. Since the Nazis had borrowed money from global investment bankers, that to whom the companies were given to after the war.

So your arguement or comparisons don't hold up. Jumping off and saying "at least you were warned" is weak. That paranoia rhetoric is similar to the Timothy Mcvie white militia bull they spout about government taking over.

What your talking about is really only plausable in a regime change in the united states. Social Dictatorship? Communist purge?

Sorry, this Byron Weeks fella is really out of his mind. Im not expert in all this subject but even I can punch holes in his theory.

It is irresponsable to promote others opinions unless the source is credible and has some factual content. While Mr. Weeks is entitled to his opinion, as are you, one must have some kind of plausable scenario that some form of a theory could work.

I have read the stuff you send over and it is interesting, but not credible form of journalism at any level. Some dude filming the rail yard does not make for any factual content. The guy is a wack job.

You have said you have "heard" or "seen" things and pass along as first person testimony. That is not credible. Nor is cutting and pasting others peoples work without who it is, their position and experience. Thus non of it is credible.

Im sure that even adds to the depth of the conspiricy. A great line used when legends are made fact.

If Colin Powell said some intense things, I'd have to take it far more responsable journalism. If Buzz Aldrin says he saw little green men, thats pretty credible. Buzz might have lost a few cells over the years, and if so thats another story.

Im not saying our Government is not full of scandals and lilly white clean, but there is a limit not to what is going on, but the way it is told.



[Edited by - Nalod on 31-07-2008 11:27 AM]

I agree. I just don't see it, with what playa saying. Society is just too much more advance then to slip back into nazi, klan, caveman era's. It's all about living a better life and those old institutions where created under poor economic conditions. Most white folks are well to do in this country. Why would they support such a radical idea and mess up the bird nest that their parents worked so hard to get to? Doesn't make sense. I agree on keeping an eye on any developments and then stomping them out as best we all can, but I really don't think it's going in that direction anymore. Look at the money and the vast opportunities people have nowadays. And more importantly, the technology. Look at what's been happening with bush and his cronnies? The questions about this war are starting to creep up on them. I heard someone confirm today, on NPR, that the administration knew' that there were no WMD.

This guy bush is in China right now trying to convince the Gov't to let the Dali Lama back into his native home. Who would have ever thought that would happen?! He's obviously trying to make some positive headway on his legacy before he leaves office.

The nazi party was formed out of poverty. That's how it always used to start. Look what happened in Bosnia? Same thing. Country torn apart, in economic despair and suddenly you have hatred, war and holocaust. But with advanced technology, it was stamped out before it grew. Nobody wants war. Everyone's interested in money, because they know money helps heal the ills and when people have it, they will hold onto it and they ain't about to let some ******* try to talk them into something so radical. Martial law is the second to last resort. At least in this country and we're nowhere near this.
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8/5/2008  11:54 PM
Posted by playa2:

Naw bro I call it like it is.

People who understand what fascism really is can see that it is what's coming to America.

Mussolini used the term and he said a better term for it would corporatism which is when corporations take over the state.

Is there any doubt that describes america today?

What is America if not an entity run by corporations?

Corporations has influence over government officials, they have privatized:

*The military - Black water which is obviously exempt from alot of laws and restrictions that govern our real military.. private army

*Prisons - prisons are now a money making business. maybe that why we lock up soo many people in this country... its big business

*Jobs - landscape is almost totally controlled by corporations so much so that the REAL american dream of people who own their businesses and control their own futures is all but dead.

*Schools- they are even corporatizing schools now... they are experimenting on poorer school districts to find a model that will make them profit.

Corporations increasingly run the state and the best interest of the corporation is what is important anymore, Americans need to wake up and fix this really.

The problem with your theory here is 'your only talking about a fraction of what America was and is and what it's built on.' It's like reading a book to us and starting in the middle of the book, without telling us how it all began. You need to show who, why and how' such people are up to no good.

First two questions I ask is 'where did you get your source of information and why' would the source write it?' What do you know' about the source you got your information from? Who are they?
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