Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Uptown:

Face it...Walsh blew it big time. Any other pontential trade involving Zach is going to cause us to take on someone else's garbage. We had a shot to dump him for a nothing.

I agree 100%. I like Walsh being patient and all but this was a golden opportunity that Walsh just plain SHAT on and screwed us with Zach - OR - dumping Zach for a whole lot of garbage in return.

This was a big mistake IMO a big mistake.

I mean...to be able to buy out Marbury and drop Zach for nothing except a 2nd round pick - would have been a VERY VERY VERY good summer and a GIGANTIC step in the right direction all at once.

Face it, Zach Fans, all he is is a box score. On the court he is an colossal failure that damages the game of everyone around him.

I could have stomached the Crawful-Curry show for one more year - if that's all it was - but throw Zach in there and it's just horrible.

Frustrated to see this happen to say the least but myself and everyone who was on board with that Zach-for-2nd rounder trade could just smell it coming: The Clippers would look elsewhere.


NOW A DOSE OF LIKELY REALITY

Camby is a superior player to Zach Randolph. If a team had a choice between Zach and Camby.......and they went for Zach...they're morons.

Posted by misterearl:
Walsh could've relented and taken back the salary-dump, bargain-basement value for Randolph. He could've made a serious play for Camby, too. Neither would've been the right move for the future.

If Walsh can't get an unconditional draft pick and/or young asset for Randolph now, then he should do exactly what he's doing. Wait it out. The buyers will come to him.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by tkf:




superior defensively, but offensively zach is even more superior than camby is over him defensively... on the boards, they are about the same.. But the key is that zach gives or would have given the clippers offense another real weapon and dimension. Camby is a good player, but he is surely on the downside. Zach is just reaching his prime... It was a typical clipper move, a dumb, rushed move... I may be wrong, but does camby really make that front line a threat? Unlike zach and curry, kaman and zach would have worked, kaman hits the boards and goes for blocks, plus kaman doesn't need to be plastered on the box to be effective....

Yeah, this is true, but as we've witnessed, Camby is a superior teammate and I think that is much more important in the long run. I think the end result of Kaman-Camby is better than Kaman-Zach just because of how Zach plays out there. He's pretty darn good at nullifying his own teammates whereas Camby makes others around him better or at the very least never cramps their games.

Camby is very talented defensive player particularly help defender but the guy has pulled disappearing acts at key times on his teams.

Furthermore Camby is another player that loves being on the IR list and right now he's not exactly a spring chicken so it will be interesting to see how this revamped Clippers team plays out.

Not that it matters since they are cursed until the end of eternity.

Zach missed thirteen games this year and Camby missed three

Posted by bitty41:

Zach missed thirteen games this year and Camby missed three

Camby has had only 3 seasons out his 11 in which he played at least 70 games so please do not try to make the point that Camby is not injury prone.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by bitty41:

Zach missed thirteen games this year and Camby missed three

Camby has had only 3 seasons out his 11 in which he played at least 70 games so please do not try to make the point that Camby is not injury prone.

And Zach's had 70 in only 3 out of 7. What's your point?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-17-2008 10:37 PM]