Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

Actually I mentioned it in this post and another post. People were more than open to discussing it with me. Maybe my approach is different.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

Actually I mentioned it in this post and another post. People were more than open to discussing it with me. Maybe my approach is different.

I believe we worded and approached the issue differently, I don't recall having other not address my post in the past. And I was addressing DJ, not you bipp.



[Edited by - playa2 on 15-07-2008 13:08]

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

Actually I mentioned it in this post and another post. People were more than open to discussing it with me. Maybe my approach is different.

I believe we worded and approached the issue differently, I don't recall having other not address my post in the past.

Then why did you say "I know nobody wants to bring this up". I was just responding to your very words. From my experience people have no problem bringing it up. I think there has been a very balanced discussion regarding Danilo. If you pay attention to the threads the only player not receiving any type of negative response is Wilson Chandler. It appears to be all positive with him. I think you and I should go to that thread and bring some balance to it.

Posted by playa2:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

don't think defense is a priority for the team right now.

dallas made a choice of going with a young nash + dirk to go with finley as their core to start rebuilding that franchise.

knicks don't have a young budding pg or an established scorer type in finley but i see them going in that type of direction as dallas.

that's why they hired d'antoni.

Did dantoni coach the mavs with dirk nash and finley?

#1 I think you are wrong DJ, remeber this is not the western conference, we play a little different here.

#2 I thing D,Antoni even though his style is to run, he understands this isn't the west.

Mike D'Antoni loves Wilson Chandler, who had 26 points in the win over the Cavs. His line was solid: 26 points (11 of 21 FGs), 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocked shots.

“His defense is awesome; that’s what impresses me more than anything,” D’Antoni said. “His shot-blocking, coming from the weak side. He’s got an extra gear. Yeah, I’m really happy with him.”


DEFENSE will always be a priority in the east and as the head coach he know that.

we'll see based on player transactions. but if lee + gallinari are 2 frontcourt players that are going to get 25+ mins a night, i think it's safe to say that defense is not a priority right now.

Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

Gallinari will be fine defensively. His lateral movement was good, much better than what I expected. and he understands the concept of team defense. (Took a charge which the ref, for whatever reason, didn't call, if I remember.) Remember, this guy is going to mature physically. Guys like Chandler and Hickson looked like they had the bodies of grown men- Gallinari is still a kid. His build looks good, but he does not have his adult strength yet. He has got to work on his lower body strength, along with his upper body workouts, so that he can battle inside. This just requires effort, desire, and time. He has all of those things in his favor. He will also be quicker in a few years. I actually didn't care how he played offensively yesterday, because I have no doubt about that part of his game. I was pleased, however, with his defensive play, even though he made mistakes.

We all know, too, that defense is a team issue. the Knicks have to play better team D and they need a defensive player in the center position. You have a number of guys on the team who can play decent D, but our key interior veterans, Lee, Curry, and Randolph, can all be considered poor defenders, and in the case of Randolph and Curry, guys who just don't care about D at all.

It will be interesting to see how Gallinari evolves as a player, but the rest of the team has to start understanding that D is a team thing. All you have to do is look at Boston to understand this.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-15-2008 1:39 PM]

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by Bippity10:

Did Bird ever do a crossover?

He did those dribble with the right hand going right then with same hand change direction and go left similar to what Gallo did yesterday.

The crossover was a pure street ball move but was done a little sloppy. I'm pretty sure they call the move "Snatch". Though I could be wrong.

Its when you roll the ball off on hand teasing the opponent to go for the steal then quickly snatch the ball with the opposite hand making him look very very stupid if the timing is right.

Gallo was the go to guy on his team, so he has played a lot of one on one to go along with team ball. I bet he has a lot of one on one moves in his arsenal and isn't sole dependent on his teammates.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by Bippity10:

Did Bird ever do a crossover?

He did those dribble with the right hand going right then with same hand change direction and go left similar to what Gallo did yesterday.

The crossover was a pure street ball move but was done a little sloppy. I'm pretty sure they call the move "Snatch". Though I could be wrong.

Its when you roll the ball off on hand teasing the opponent to go for the steal then quickly snatch the ball with the opposite hand making him look very very stupid if the timing is right.

Gallo was the go to guy on his team, so he has played a lot of one on one to go along with team ball. I bet he has a lot of one on one moves in his arsenal and isn't sole dependent on his teammates.

Never mind it was called Sham God my bad.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by Bippity10:

Did Bird ever do a crossover?

He did those dribble with the right hand going right then with same hand change direction and go left similar to what Gallo did yesterday.

The crossover was a pure street ball move but was done a little sloppy. I'm pretty sure they call the move "Snatch". Though I could be wrong.

Its when you roll the ball off on hand teasing the opponent to go for the steal then quickly snatch the ball with the opposite hand making him look very very stupid if the timing is right.

Gallo was the go to guy on his team, so he has played a lot of one on one to go along with team ball. I bet he has a lot of one on one moves in his arsenal and isn't sole dependent on his teammates.

Never mind it was called Sham God my bad.

To be honest with you I prefer "snatch"

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by playa2:

Some of you guys have an agenda, comparing him with bird. LOL

"THE GALL" showed me that one move that made me think of Tony Kukoc the croatian when he went to the basket after a low dribble crossover move to the left .

His legs are stiff, but he looks like he enjoys the game.

I'm wondering about just one thing.

With the knicks not having too many two-way players, how will "the gall" fare defensively if chandler is not on the court to help him on defense?

He had 3 fouls in 20 min I believe.

So in a real game he wouldn't log too many minutes on the court.

I know nobody wants to bring this up , but i'm just bringing a balance to the rooster hype.

The 2nd foul was bogus. He set the same type of picks the whole game but only got called for that one. The first was iffy but I think he put his hands on the pg so it was a touch foul.

There is a reason why there is an unlimited amount of fouls in Summer league. Because the refs are not dependable in summer league.

I don't remember you "playa" bringing up how Randolph had 6 fouls in his season opener when he dropped 30pts. While Gallo had 5.

Why does Gallo get judged on his fouls but Randolph doesn't?

OMG. So now the SL refs are anti-Gallinari too.
Gallinari earned every foul he got. This is as bad as killing him with now making statements like this. That first foul "iffy". Come on. It was ridculous foul because he actually went out pass the 3 point line near half court to get it. He look like he was chasing down the guy who just mugged him. Clyde began his color commentation about him needing to work on his defense after that foul.