Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by djsunyc:

all these rumors and stories don't mean anything.

actions are what matters. so far, the knicks have walsh as a gm, d'antoni as the coach, drafted gallinari and signed duhon. everything else said or written about means jack.

Stop trying to be so reasonable. David Lee destroyed the Knicks. He's worse than Isiah.

Nobody is saying that psycho.

911 was an inside job!

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by EnySpree:

I'm not inclined to pay Lee millions to be a bench player.

Yeah, but at the same time we pay jerome 6 million to do just that!

If we want to get rid of someone, buy that fat ass out and give the six mil to Lee! That's one solution right there.

That's not a good arguement.
Jerome is gonna get paid regardless if he's waived or not and his contract counts against the cap for the remainder of the deal.

Jerome again is someone stupid ass Isiah brought in. To Donnie and D'antoni they are not looking at him more than a contract. He probably will be bought out before the end of the summer if a roster spot is needed or something. His contract is still a chip to be played.

Again....this is a new regime. I don't mind keeping David Lee, but if this new management sees Chandler and Gallo as the future and presently cheaper alternative to signing David Lee to what would probably be a Isiahesque deal then you gotta make the right move......trade David Lee(AND Zach just not in the same trade, curry too if at all possible) for someone that fits the Knicks going forward.

This has nothing to do with race, btw. I see you trying to suggest that above. No freakin way. David Lee is still a good player regardless of whatever, but its not about him. Its about getting the right mix of players here.

Isiah's mess is Donnie's to fix. That's why donnie is here. Again let this Isiah's fault **** go. Some kids in central africa are sitting in a hut with flies in their noses, no water, electricity or food and they still probably would know the Knicks are screwed up cuz of Isiah. Its a world known fact. Let it go.

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by djsunyc:

all these rumors and stories don't mean anything.

actions are what matters. so far, the knicks have walsh as a gm, d'antoni as the coach, drafted gallinari and signed duhon. everything else said or written about means jack.

Stop trying to be so reasonable. David Lee destroyed the Knicks. He's worse than Isiah.

maybe we should take him out back and beat the **** out of him.

Posted by 4949:

Olay, let's say I'm the Memphis GM and let's say 'I'm really stupid'! Okay, now I trade a #5 round draft pick to the Knicks (the New York Knicks that is) and I take on zach's average 16 million dollar contract, that ends in three years, and I get Lee as part of the deal, who I know doesn't really want to be here.

What am I left with?

I just helped the Knicks unload some of it's major salary, which I am now stuck with, got Lee probably for one year and that's it.

if this correct scenario, then how does this work for Memphis?

Posted by 4949:

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by 4949:

Olay, let's say I'm the Memphis GM and let's say 'I'm really stupid'! Okay, now I trade a #5 round draft pick to the Knicks (the New York Knicks that is) and I take on zach's average 16 million dollar contract, that ends in three years, and I get Lee as part of the deal, who I know doesn't really want to be here.

What am I left with?

I just helped the Knicks unload some of it's major salary, which I am now stuck with, got Lee probably for one year and that's it.

if this correct scenario, then how does this work for Memphis?

Zach wasn't apart of the original deal. The main principles were Lee and the 5th pick and perhaps a salary dump from Memphis' end (Cardinal?). I like Lee but F*** him and his agent if this is true. I'm a Knick fan first.

Oh boy. What's all of this Lee-zach crap about then? And I thought David Lee was a Knick fan first also!

Fuck it! I hope Lee does go. NY doesn't deserve him.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by 4949:

Olay, let's say I'm the Memphis GM and let's say 'I'm really stupid'! Okay, now I trade a #5 round draft pick to the Knicks (the New York Knicks that is) and I take on zach's average 16 million dollar contract, that ends in three years, and I get Lee as part of the deal, who I know doesn't really want to be here.

What am I left with?

I just helped the Knicks unload some of it's major salary, which I am now stuck with, got Lee probably for one year and that's it.

if this correct scenario, then how does this work for Memphis?

Zach wasn't apart of the original deal. The main principles were Lee and the 5th pick and perhaps a salary dump from Memphis' end (Cardinal?). I like Lee but F*** him and his agent if this is true. I'm a Knick fan first.

Oh boy. What's all of this Lee-zach crap about then? And I thought David Lee was a Knick fan first also!

Fuck it! I hope Lee does go. NY doesn't deserve him.

If we trade Lee, can you include yourself in that package and become a fan of whatever team Lee plays for? Ultimateclippers.com is waiting for you.

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo.

It's not Lee's job to get us Mayo. That's Walsh's and Dolan's. If my empoloyer wanted to shift me to a place I didn't want to go to, I'd do everything I could to get out of it too.

Who said it was his job? Not me. I said he cost us Mayo. There's a difference.

As per you doing everything you can to get out of a relocation, how well do you think you're bosses would react to that-if they decide to keep you around after fighting them?

Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo. Only way he wins back my support is if he proves to be a better player(that means more than the one dimensional hustle player he currently is) and he resigns with us for a discount to prove that he really wants to play here.

So far there have been two instances where he has acte like a primadonna.

First was the whole Larry Brown is stealing our joy crap and now this. I am really starting to sour on him.

I just hope he realizes the repurcussions of his actions. He alienated himself from new management that will be here long term. That is never good. I am curious if this was an unolicted thing his agent did or if Memphis wanted him resigned as soon as he got there and then his agent did it. There is a difference to me.

I also don't buy that his agent was doing his own thing. Agents work for players. He had to know. That is something that had to be run by Lee first. I think that part is an out and out lie about him not knowing.

Posted by loweyecue:

Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo. Only way he wins back my support is if he proves to be a better player(that means more than the one dimensional hustle player he currently is) and he resigns with us for a discount to prove that he really wants to play here.

So far there have been two instances where he has acte like a primadonna.

First was the whole Larry Brown is stealing our joy crap and now this. I am really starting to sour on him.

I just hope he realizes the repurcussions of his actions. He alienated himself from new management that will be here long term. That is never good. I am curious if this was an unolicted thing his agent did or if Memphis wanted him resigned as soon as he got there and then his agent did it. There is a difference to me.

I also don't buy that his agent was doing his own thing. Agents work for players. He had to know. That is something that had to be run by Lee first. I think that part is an out and out lie about him not knowing.

How did he alienate himself with the management? He didnt oppose the trade did he? His "agent" said he wouldn't continue playing for a sorry *** team. Good for him.

And how did he cost us Mayo? Mayo went @3, Lee would have gotten us he 5th pick at best.