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7/12/2008  8:40 PM
Rondo has no idea how to run a team

dude just won a ring not being able to run that team... why would the Celts wanna mess up their chemistry by bringing in Marbs? & if they were stupid enough to do it, wouldn't that be a good thing from our perspective? IMO the only team that makes sense for him to sign with are the Lakers... he gets along well w/Kobe & he would have no choice but to respect the fact that it's his team, & the Lakers will be desperate to win a title next year to keep Kobe in LA during his option year... i think they'll go hard after Artest & Marbury & see if they can starphuch their way to a title next season... they definitely need an upgrade at the PG position.
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7/12/2008  9:25 PM
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If Larry Brown wasn't allowed to trade any of Isiah's players why should D'Antoni?

This is Isiah's team's first year under Mike, shouldn't he get at least a couple of years to make it it work?

No more sabotage. Everybody stays.

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7/12/2008  10:47 PM
Posted by TMS:
Rondo has no idea how to run a team

dude just won a ring not being able to run that team... why would the Celts wanna mess up their chemistry by bringing in Marbs? & if they were stupid enough to do it, wouldn't that be a good thing from our perspective? IMO the only team that makes sense for him to sign with are the Lakers... he gets along well w/Kobe & he would have no choice but to respect the fact that it's his team, & the Lakers will be desperate to win a title next year to keep Kobe in LA during his option year... i think they'll go hard after Artest & Marbury & see if they can starphuch their way to a title next season... they definitely need an upgrade at the PG position.

Pierce ran the offense not Rondo. I actually agree that Rondo has no clue how to run an offense. He's more of a sixth man who can get by as a starter because he is surronded by 3 all star starters. Now I don't think Marbury would start in Boston but I do think he'd be a better backup than what they currently have. I agree with you that the Lakers would be a great option also for Marbury though.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-12-2008 10:48 PM]
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7/13/2008  3:30 AM
the point is who cares if he can't run an offense, that team won a championship w/him as their starting PG... how does it make sense to bring in a chemistry killing personality like Steph to an already winning formula? Marbury is a more talented player than Rondo but the Celtics have no need to add another scorer... they just need Rondo to play his role which he does well.
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7/13/2008  3:44 AM
Posted by TMS:

the point is who cares if he can't run an offense, that team won a championship w/him as their starting PG... how does it make sense to bring in a chemistry killing personality like Steph to an already winning formula? Marbury is a more talented player than Rondo but the Celtics have no need to add another scorer... they just need Rondo to play his role which he does well.

Marbs may not be the answer because he is just a head case...But the Celts do need a point guard...Pierce probably feels his group can coral Marbs, who knows...I'm sure KG has some thoughts on this as well..but who cares..my team will still suck next year....
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7/13/2008  3:53 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by TMS:

the point is who cares if he can't run an offense, that team won a championship w/him as their starting PG... how does it make sense to bring in a chemistry killing personality like Steph to an already winning formula? Marbury is a more talented player than Rondo but the Celtics have no need to add another scorer... they just need Rondo to play his role which he does well.

Marbs may not be the answer because he is just a head case...But the Celts do need a point guard...Pierce probably feels his group can coral Marbs, who knows...I'm sure KG has some thoughts on this as well..but who cares..my team will still suck next year....


on the KG factor point u just made, it didn't sound to me like he was all that interested in playing w/Steph in NY when the question came up last season... i dunno, i have no idea what's in KG's head but common sense would tell me he'd be happy w/the formula that just won him his 1st NBA championship last year & won't wanna do anything to screw w/that.
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7/13/2008  9:10 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by TMS:

the point is who cares if he can't run an offense, that team won a championship w/him as their starting PG... how does it make sense to bring in a chemistry killing personality like Steph to an already winning formula? Marbury is a more talented player than Rondo but the Celtics have no need to add another scorer... they just need Rondo to play his role which he does well.

Marbs may not be the answer because he is just a head case...But the Celts do need a point guard...Pierce probably feels his group can coral Marbs, who knows...I'm sure KG has some thoughts on this as well..but who cares..my team will still suck next year....


on the KG factor point u just made, it didn't sound to me like he was all that interested in playing w/Steph in NY when the question came up last season... i dunno, i have no idea what's in KG's head but common sense would tell me he'd be happy w/the formula that just won him his 1st NBA championship last year & won't wanna do anything to screw w/that.

Championship teams are proactive. The Lakers likely will get a healthy Bynum back, which changes their entire defense. A healthy Brand completely changes the Sixers on both ends of the court. And the Celtics should stand pat because they won last year when they could sign Marbury for pocket change? It's the definition of low risk high potential reward. If Marbury acts like a cancer, you waive him and lose the pocket change on the signing. If he's dedicated to the team, it will be the steal of the off-season.
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7/13/2008  7:20 PM
just like Zach was a "steal" for Steve Francis & Channing Frye... gotcha... sorry, but i thiink they'd be idiotic to sign Marbs.
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7/13/2008  9:25 PM
Posted by TMS:

just like Zach was a "steal" for Steve Francis & Channing Frye... gotcha... sorry, but i thiink they'd be idiotic to sign Marbs.
If Zach had cost the pocket change in salary that Marbury would cost, yes, getting him would have been a great gamble and he'd have very good trade value right now even if he still didn't fit on this team with Lee and Eddy.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-13-2008 9:26 PM]
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7/14/2008  8:54 AM
ainge/doc obviously disagree with u abt rondo. no way they go into a championship or bust campaign with a 2nd yr point guard as starter if they felt he couldn't do what they needed out of the position.

and while i agree there was too much firepower not to have a 50 let alone 60 win season, rondo in the play-offs showed he truly understands the position. ray allen criticises him to the media in the 2nd round 4 not getting him involved early enough and thats y he was in a shooting slump. Rondo didn't sulk and tune ray out on the court(the Marbury response). He took the onus on himself to get his shooter going and from that point on he made a conscious and very deliberate effort to look for ray early and often, especially in transition and get him the ball in his sweet spots.

with kg ray and pierce in the starting 5 IMO Marbury's scoring and ability to break down the d doesn't trump rondo's unselfishness nor his d and play in transition.

real simple formula even steph shouldn't be able to f up: 6th man, score or kick to a spot up man, play for a title.

[Edited by - McK1 on 14-07-2008 08:59 AM]
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7/14/2008  9:13 AM
Rondo is just fine at the PG. It was his second year and yet he fit right into a championship team. Cut the guy some slack. Marbs has yet to show he can do anything here besides me a main contributor in events that torpedoed entire seasons
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7/14/2008  9:22 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Rondo is just fine at the PG. It was his second year and yet he fit right into a championship team. Cut the guy some slack. Marbs has yet to show he can do anything here besides me a main contributor in events that torpedoed entire seasons

No one's talking about replacing Rondo with Marbury. The real comparison should be Cassel/E House vs. Marbury as the backup.
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7/14/2008  9:26 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
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Rondo is just fine at the PG. It was his second year and yet he fit right into a championship team. Cut the guy some slack. Marbs has yet to show he can do anything here besides me a main contributor in events that torpedoed entire seasons

No one's talking about replacing Rondo with Marbury. The real comparison should be Cassel/E House vs. Marbury as the backup.

Assuming that Marbs would accept a back-up role. Imagine if you will, Rondo goes into a slump. The Celtic coaching staff confident in his ability to bounce back continues to give him big minutes even though the team struggles on it's road trip. Marbs continues to get Cassel minutes while his team is losing and he is in a contract year. How does Marbs respond? Does he threaten to leave the team if Doc doesn't start him? Does he get another head tattoo? Does he threaten to play in Bulgaria?

Maybe he shines, maybe he doesn't. But past evidence shows me that he will probably create a ruckus and hurt team chemistry like he always does. Sorry, until he proves otherwise I can't give any other answer. Is it worth the risk for the Celts? Maybe. Personally I wouldn't take that risk. There will be other players avaialable to play back-up minutes later in the season if you need it.
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7/14/2008  7:11 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:

Rondo is just fine at the PG. It was his second year and yet he fit right into a championship team. Cut the guy some slack. Marbs has yet to show he can do anything here besides me a main contributor in events that torpedoed entire seasons

No one's talking about replacing Rondo with Marbury. The real comparison should be Cassel/E House vs. Marbury as the backup.

the discussion is absolutely about replacing Rondo w/Marbury... there was a comment about Rondo not being able to run a team made my holfresh... what about Marbs' past history leads u to believe he'd even accept a role as a backup?


[Edited by - TMS on 07-14-2008 4:14 PM]
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7/14/2008  7:17 PM
Posted by TMS:
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Posted by Bippity10:

Rondo is just fine at the PG. It was his second year and yet he fit right into a championship team. Cut the guy some slack. Marbs has yet to show he can do anything here besides me a main contributor in events that torpedoed entire seasons

No one's talking about replacing Rondo with Marbury. The real comparison should be Cassel/E House vs. Marbury as the backup.

the discussion is absolutely about replacing Rondo w/Marbury... there was a comment about Rondo not being able to run a team... you yourself was insinuating that Marbs would be a clear upgrade over Rondo at PG for the Celtics... now ur saying they would want him as a backup? what about Marbs' past history leads u to believe he'd even accept a role as a backup?

[Edited by - TMS on 07-14-2008 4:13 PM]
You use your backup strategically. If teams are doubling off Rondo or if the offense looks lost because Rondo's not running it well, you put your backup in (as Doc did this last year--that backup was merely an inferior one to Marbury). I think the Celtics would be smart to offer the backup role to Marbury but only Marbury knows whether he would accept the role. I sure don't.
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7/15/2008  11:36 AM
Personally I don't think there is anyway in he-ll Marbs is accepting a back up role in a contract year. Just think last year he torpedoed our entire season when he was told he was going to the bench. Why would he magically change after all this time?

Even if he accepted the role how do you think he responds the moment Rondo has a 2 week slump and he is still riding the pine. At that point, Marbs will continue to be Marbs.
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