Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by MS:

Worst starter at his position in the NBA

SG
Wade, Carter, Hamilton, Allen, Pierce, Richardson, Iggy, Joe Johnson, Gordon, Redd, Parker (more efficient, better defender) Nate (give him 16 shots a game)

You would take Crawford over
Stevenson, Bogens,

That is just in the eastern conference

Question:

Is it at all possible to pick up any of those players? No? Ok well by all means please stfu stupid.

Edit: stevenson and bogans shouldn't be anybody's starter. Both are back-ups.....and yes craw is better than both. Percentages is one thing but you stand a better chance with Craw out there cuz of everything else he can do.

[Edited by - enyspree on 10-07-2008 10:14 AM]

Posted by McK1:

i don't get the whole "lacks fear" part about Jamal

he isn't scared to keep shooting...does that really qualify as admirable?

he isn't afraid to take the last shot...how difficult is that when your team is on pace to win 20-30 games?

Jamal is a very scared player...

he is scared of:
playing even a decent to good floor game on a nightly basis
contact in the lane
driving the baseline
the extra effort it takes to get off a clean look from 15 vs 20 24 or 27
rebounding from the guard spot

i don't care much for arenas' game but since they were comped arenas does give you 4-5 boards a night and over the last 3 full seasons got to the line abt 8 times a night which is almost double jamal's trips per

I think there is a difference between Crawford being too lazy and taking easy outside shots vs. driving. I don't think its fear that keeps him out of the lane, or from grabbing boards and playing defense.

I think players can be hustle players, but afraid of taking a big shot. Would you want Balkman taking the last shot?

And its when players have it all - hustle, skill and fearlessness that you have big time players like Kobe, Lebron et al.

Posted by McK1:

i don't get the whole "lacks fear" part about Jamal

he isn't scared to keep shooting...does that really qualify as admirable?

he isn't afraid to take the last shot...how difficult is that when your team is on pace to win 20-30 games?

Jamal is a very scared player...

he is scared of:
playing even a decent to good floor game on a nightly basis
contact in the lane
driving the baseline
the extra effort it takes to get off a clean look from 15 vs 20 24 or 27
rebounding from the guard spot

i don't care much for arenas' game but since they were comped arenas does give you 4-5 boards a night and over the last 3 full seasons got to the line abt 8 times a night which is almost double jamal's trips per

it's a simple concept really... he doesn't have the fear of failure... u can't say the same of a lot of good players in the game... when we say he's fearless we're referring to that aspect of his personality... John Starks had the same kind of fearlessness, though on his part he was also not afraid to D up on legends like MJ & gained a lot of respect for his show of heart by doing so... i think Jamal shows his heart in different ways... he's a fearless scorer & doesn't let guys putting 1 down on his discourage him at all from scoring back on his man on the other end... out of all the guys on this team, he's got the most of that type of moxy... Nate shows some of the same moxy but he's still gotta get a hold on his emotions on the floor... i think Jamal controls his emotions well & makes it work for him on a more consistent basis... this is not to say the guy is a consistent scorer, he's a streaky guy as everyone has already stated, but i don't doubt his willingness & desire to carry the load for his team when they need him to... this is a trait that i've never really gotten much out of Steph who's probably a much more refined ball player all around than Jamal is.