Posted by islesfan:

I think all Gallinari jock sniffers would be satisfied with the following numbers:

21 pts and 10 rebs shooting 49% from the field, 41% from 3pt and 87% from the line. In a conference as strong as say, the Pac-10.

[Edited by - islesfan on 29-06-2008 6:54 PM]

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

I think all Gallinari jock sniffers would be satisfied with the following numbers:

21 pts and 10 rebs shooting 49% from the field, 41% from 3pt and 87% from the line. In a conference as strong as say, the Pac-10.

[Edited by - islesfan on 29-06-2008 6:54 PM]

Isles, no one was thrilled with the pick, but some are willing to give the kid a chance. I don't understand what you're saying here? You think Euroleague is that superior to the NCAAs?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

I think all Gallinari jock sniffers would be satisfied with the following numbers:

21 pts and 10 rebs shooting 49% from the field, 41% from 3pt and 87% from the line. In a conference as strong as say, the Pac-10.

[Edited by - islesfan on 29-06-2008 6:54 PM]

Isles, no one was thrilled with the pick, but some are willing to give the kid a chance. I don't understand what you're saying here? You think Euroleague is that superior to the NCAAs?

Posted by oohah:

Thanks for making my point with the link

Troy Murphy Sophmore year==danillo 19 same age

2pt FG makes 274 3pt makes 30

total makes 304 30 represents less than 10% of made shots He didnt even average 1 3 point make per game.

anything else?

Whaaaat? It's not the "makes" its the "takes". He took virtually the same percentage of 3-pointers in his sophomore year as his Junior year 16.5 percent of his total shots compared to 18.5 percent his junior year. And if a guys is shooting that many 3 pointers, you can be sure he's shooting a good number of mid-range jumpers too.

The thing is BRIGGS, you're just wrong about Murphy's college game. Of course with his 6'10" height Murphy played inside plenty, but he was not a "pure post player" by any stretch. He shot and scored plenty from the perimeter, and even took guys off the dribble. He was good, big, and versatile at the college level.

Just like Galinari would have been.

oohah

oohah--if you know Troy Murphy from Notre Dame he was in the post most of the game-did he take some shots from3 and mid range--yes but hsi bread and butter was the post. So far I have not seen one clip of one post move from this kid--not one he's not a post player--he really is a SF that the NY Knicks want to make a 4????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by BRIGGS:

If the NCAA scks that bad and the Euro League is that Good and like people are saying this kid would put up 30 points in the NCAA in his second year--well than I expect him to be as good as Michael Beasley who could only manage 26 a game in his first year. Most of the really good players in the NBA who played in the league at 20 were very good right away. If this is what people are comparing him too and we have a 23 win team--he should start on day 1 as high lottery picks usually do and be extremely productive--I mean he can easily score 25 points NCAA so I guess we can follow Beasley and Gallinari and compare and contrast. I mean its Beasley who needs to get ready for the tougher players not Danillo going on the theme here

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-30-2008 12:28 AM]

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BRIGGS:

If the NCAA scks that bad and the Euro League is that Good and like people are saying this kid would put up 30 points in the NCAA in his second year--well than I expect him to be as good as Michael Beasley who could only manage 26 a game in his first year. Most of the really good players in the NBA who played in the league at 20 were very good right away. If this is what people are comparing him too and we have a 23 win team--he should start on day 1 as high lottery picks usually do and be extremely productive--I mean he can easily score 25 points NCAA so I guess we can follow Beasley and Gallinari and compare and contrast. I mean its Beasley who needs to get ready for the tougher players not Danillo going on the theme here

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-30-2008 12:28 AM]

Let's be fair and compare him to someone his size and with a supposedly comparable game. Kevin Durant only average 26 pts per game at U of Texas. At a minimum, Gallinari should have the same success that Durant had in his rookie year. He'll get the same type of playing time and be given just as much freedom to score as Durant had. Durant averaged 20 pts per game and won Rookie of the Year. That should be the absolute least expected from someone who dominated the EL.

[Edited by - islesfan on 30-06-2008 12:52 AM]

Posted by rain:

Briggs.. he is an infinitely better athlete than Murphy. Gallinari has a first step and handle, and can finish around the rim.
He has major game. He doesn't jump well.. but he also has grown three inches in a year and half.

Give it some time, you'll see. Your selling him short.
At 6'8.. he's not a good athlete. At 6'10 1/2 he's a very good athlete that will take Boozer away from the rim and either shoot over him, or take him off the dribble. Your not seeing the possibilities.. no pick we could have made has this much upside. I applaud Walsh and D'Antoni for taking a shot.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by oohah:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

Andrew Bogut who was atleast three times the prospect averaged 20 points as a sophmore with 12 rebounds shooting 62%

Danillio with his stifflegs and positioing would not have averaged more than 6 rebounds and depending who he played for 14-17 points around 45% shooting

A better comparison in terms of game or skillset would be Troy Murphy, don't you think? In terms of size and skill they are comparable. They both like to play the perimeter and have similar athletic ability. I would say Murphy is a slightly better athlete, and Galinari has better ball-handling skills.

Since Galinari Shot over 40% from the longer 3 point range, he would have averaged quite a bit.

I think he would have been like Troy Murphy.

oohah



I dont know if you watched Troy Murphy at all in the Big east--he was a pure post player who shot an occasional 3 pointer --and he had more height and weight But while you are on that subject that is one of my biggest negatives about this pick--I do not believe in a 4 who is a 3 pt shooter i believe 4s should be mid range to post.



Thanks for making my point with the link

Troy Murphy Sophmore year==danillo 19 same age

2pt FG makes 274 3pt makes 30

total makes 304 30 represents less than 10% of made shots He didnt even average 1 3 point make per game.

anything else?



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 6:38 PM]

I never said anything about Troy Murphy being athletic--I didnt even bring him upsomeone else did. I said @ Notre Dame a bulk or a large majority of his points came from post play.

Briggs.. he is an infinitely better athlete than Murphy. Gallinari has a first step and handle, and can finish around the rim.
He has major game. He doesn't jump well.. but he also has grown three inches in a year and half.