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codeunknown
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6/26/2008  8:41 PM
Posted by PresIke:

How many of us are really informed enough to pass strong judgement?

I think this could work out well for us. From what I've read and seen I am hopeful.

Who's passed strong judgment?
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6/26/2008  8:43 PM
He isn't necessarily a straight up 3. He's a combo forward. And Walsh says he expects him to gain weight (or something like that).

His ball handling skills are high, from what I understand. He will probably not be the best defender, but he is versatile on the O.
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6/26/2008  8:44 PM
Posted by BlacKat:

Once again i am on record saying that this will be a great pick by the Knicks !!! He is light years better then any SF we have on the roster !!! You can now package Lee, Chandler and Balkman ( some kind of combination )with a big contract like Zach and be ok. We are not asking the kid to do anything other than what his skillz dictate and that shoot, drive and rebound.

You are also on record saying Westbrook and Alexander will be the two major busts --I have a feeling you may eat some words.
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6/26/2008  8:44 PM
Posted by nixluva:

The draft 1-5 dictated what we could do with our pick and to be honest who really needed another clone of what we already have with Gordon or Bayless. Danilo is a different kind of player for this team. He does things that we don't already have. High B IQ, solid pedigree, passing, shooting, excellent size and handle, this is a good thing for this team.
If that is the case why not sign Alexander who is more explosive?

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6/26/2008  8:45 PM
i would've rather we traded down, picked up Brandon Rush, Chalmers, and/or Nicolas Batum .... that said, i would rather have gallinari anyone else in 6-10
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6/26/2008  8:45 PM
Well I figured he was who we were going to get and after watching some video's I think he will be good for us. I like getting some international blood, having a tall SF who can actually play, and I think he will fit in D'Antoni's system.

Could we have done better? We wont know until this year plays out. For those pining for a PG - Marbury is still a good player. Although he has a bad attitude, I agree with a few other posters - I do not want to see an undersized G playing our PG position. They need a true PG and I didnt see any we had a shot at.
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6/26/2008  8:45 PM
Now thats its all said and done, I hope that next year he actually turns out to be a good player. I really hope that we can end the curse of garbage coming into this team. Summer league is in two weeks, so hopefully we can see what this kid is all about
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6/26/2008  8:47 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by PresIke:

How many of us are really informed enough to pass strong judgement?

I think this could work out well for us. From what I've read and seen I am hopeful.

Who's passed strong judgment?

I don't think it would be unreasonable to consider Islesfan's ranting, raving, and foaming at the mouth as a strong judgement.
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6/26/2008  8:47 PM
Posted by McK1:

how will he deal with the size ball-handling and athleticism of the Eastern conference 3's?

This guy is a baby. He hasn't fully developed. I think he's gonna have the skill level and IQ to be a really solid player for this team. They say he's now 6-10 without shoes, so you get the idea of just how unique he is to be able to handle the ball full court like he does and finish plays. We have Chandler to matchup with smaller quicker 3's, but on the other end if he does play 3, they'll have a hard time dealing with him just like Dirk is a tough cover for other teams.
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6/26/2008  8:49 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlacKat:

Once again i am on record saying that this will be a great pick by the Knicks !!! He is light years better then any SF we have on the roster !!! You can now package Lee, Chandler and Balkman ( some kind of combination )with a big contract like Zach and be ok. We are not asking the kid to do anything other than what his skillz dictate and that shoot, drive and rebound.

You are also on record saying Westbrook and Alexander will be the two major busts --I have a feeling you may eat some words.

yeah, stop flip flopping BlacKat... that's so uncool.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 5:50 PM]
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6/26/2008  8:50 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by nixluva:

The draft 1-5 dictated what we could do with our pick and to be honest who really needed another clone of what we already have with Gordon or Bayless. Danilo is a different kind of player for this team. He does things that we don't already have. High B IQ, solid pedigree, passing, shooting, excellent size and handle, this is a good thing for this team.
If that is the case why not sign Alexander who is more explosive?
Being more explosive is about the only thing Alexander has over DG. You see other NBA players who have the same level of athletic ability as Alexander, but few bigs who can do what DG does, so to me he's a better overall talent.
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6/26/2008  8:57 PM
i really think all the booing was just from excitement ... do you really think the people there tonight were going to cheer anything short of a trade up for rose or beasly? ... they're just there to loud and boisterous ... and given the state of the knicks, they were intent on booing and drawing attention to tehmselves... that's it.
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6/26/2008  8:58 PM
Danilo has guard 4s for this to work out. He'll never be able to guard 3s.
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6/26/2008  9:02 PM
everyone agreed that this team lacked a perimeter shooter all last season at the wing position... now that Walsh just drafted one all of a sudden it's no longer a need for us... i don't get that at all.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 6:02 PM]
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6/26/2008  9:06 PM
i agree with TMS
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6/26/2008  9:06 PM
Posted by TMS:

everyone agreed that this team lacked a perimeter shooter all last season at the wing position... now that Walsh just drafted one all of a sudden it's no longer a need for us... i don't get that at all.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 6:02 PM]

His shooting/mechanics are definitely impressive but they're an advantage only if he can guard 4s. If he's guarding on the perimiter you're accepting that you'll have to zone it up every night.
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6/26/2008  9:06 PM
Dick Vitale continues to expose himself as not in-the-know, when it comes to international players, and then goes to the all-too-easy argument about Milicic vs. Mello.

Way to use a sound argument.

So, because you watch only college ball, that makes your view better than those who watch the other? What about those who watch both?

I'm not saying Galinari will be a star, but if I'm not an expert on the guy why would I go bashing him either.

I think this pretty much says a lot of what most here, including myself, feel one way or the other about Danilo.

We haven't seen enough of him to really know what we're talking about.

I am trusting Walsh and D'Antoni based on their track record, since that's all we have now. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I liked Bayless, despite seeing him as a SG not a PG.

All of this talk is speculative and we'll just have to wait and see what he brings. I think it will take time too...

And for all those screaming "Rebuild" now we have a player that will require patience...

Will you award him the same window you claim is needed for rebuilding to see what he can develop into?
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6/26/2008  9:10 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by TMS:

everyone agreed that this team lacked a perimeter shooter all last season at the wing position... now that Walsh just drafted one all of a sudden it's no longer a need for us... i don't get that at all.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 6:02 PM]

His shooting/mechanics are definitely impressive but they're an advantage only if he can guard 4s. If he's guarding on the perimiter you're accepting that you'll have to zone it up every night.

bottomline i think everyone pretty much knew there were alotta holes that needed to be filled on this team... getting a guy who can shoot the J & bring a little passing, ballhandling & shotcreating ability from the wing position is a good thing in my view... let's say he grows into a capable point forward for us, that opens up a lot of options for Mike D to run different offensive sets.

i agree that having him guarding speedier smaller G's is not really an option for us, but if u have someone like Balkman let's say playing at the SF u can afford to have DG at the 2 in some rotations & have him guard the slower SF's while Balk checks the 2.
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6/26/2008  9:13 PM
Posted by TMS:

everyone agreed that this team lacked a perimeter shooter all last season at the wing position... now that Walsh just drafted one all of a sudden it's no longer a need for us... i don't get that at all.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 6:02 PM]

I don't deny the fact that we need a shooter. But we also need a Playmaking PG, Shotblockers and CERTAIN talent!

You can acquire a perimeter shooter fairly easily, in the draft or in free agency. We may have made a mistake by drafting Gallinari. Too much of an unknown! Didn't this guy shy away from contact during his workout? Where is the toughness? Plus we have a multitude of SF's on this team. WTF?

Eric Gordon, Jerryd Bayless and Brook Lopez were on the board. Anthony Randolph was there. I know those prospects. Danilo Gallinari may turn out to be good... and I sure as hell hope so.. However, if it doesn't. Forget about all those superstar player to NYK talks in 2010.

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6/26/2008  9:13 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by TMS:

everyone agreed that this team lacked a perimeter shooter all last season at the wing position... now that Walsh just drafted one all of a sudden it's no longer a need for us... i don't get that at all.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-26-2008 6:02 PM]

His shooting/mechanics are definitely impressive but they're an advantage only if he can guard 4s. If he's guarding on the perimiter you're accepting that you'll have to zone it up every night.

bottomline i think everyone pretty much knew there were alotta holes that needed to be filled on this team... getting a guy who can shoot the J & bring a little passing, ballhandling & shotcreating ability from the wing position is a good thing in my view... let's say he grows into a capable point forward for us, that opens up a lot of options for Mike D to run different offensive sets.

i agree that having him guarding speedier smaller G's is not really an option for us, but if u have someone like Balkman let's say playing at the SF u can afford to have DG at the 2 in some rotations & have him guard the slower SF's while Balk checks the 2.

Knicks needed to take the best player no matter what.
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