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Danilo Gallinari being called him one of the most over rated players in the draft
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BRIGGS
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6/25/2008  3:38 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

The Director of NBA Scouting (don't know his name) is on Mike and the Maddog with Russo and loves Gallinari. He think he's going to be able to contribute right away and think his game will translate to the NBA quite well.

I think the bottom line is he's a 6-10 kid with a lot of skills. If they really have a convinction about him--it's a direction and Donnie Walsh has been an excellent draft picker. If we do get this kid I would like to keep david Lee.

I agree Briggs. I honestly know nothing about this kid other than the his height and weight and he's from Italy. I really don't want to watch youtube highlights and try and make conclusions on them, it just doesn't make sense to me. If Donnie thinks DG is the goods then I got no problem trusting him.

I will say, if this guy thinks DG's game will translate well into the NBA then he should thrive in D'Antoni's system. Who knows, if we draft him then I'll have a VERY close eye on the summer league games to see what this kid can do.

Well that is the thing about seeing clips. Number 1 you see every + play--never a negative. It's possible that some tapes dont show as well or actaully better than others. Like I said yesterday I think the proper avenue in this draft is to get the best player for the team and work on it to the last minute. I watched this tape 5 times now and Im a lot more comfortable if we pick him--it appears as if he has good athletci ability--good enough at 6-10 to be very effective with his jumpshooting. Will he be able to guard Lebron James--I dont know about that but who else can anyway? He's got some moxy--you can see that--maybe he'll be something for us--God knows we need something. But I am against trading Lee if we do pick him.
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6/25/2008  3:39 PM
The thing i'll say about Gallinari is that he's big and skilled and only 19. He leads his team and in a league that is better than college. We can't know everything about him, but from what i've seen the kid is more mobile and well rounded than Bargnani. He can not only shoot, but can put the ball on the floor and pass. All this and he's just a baby. So he can't jump out of the gym! That isn't a big deal. Lot's of super athletic guys stink in real game situations.

If Waltoni feel he's the right move, then I trust they've done their research.
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6/25/2008  6:01 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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He looks better in this tape than others--perhaps the length of the tape. I was much more impressed than what I originally viewed. The two videos I had previously seen he appeared much more stiff--in this tape he looks fluid and more athletic. He does have a very nice handle for a guy his size with a very nice offensive skill set. He has a very nice long-range touch but also has the intermediate package and dribble-drive abilities.

fuggin hilarious... after viewing just about every DG clip on YouTube i related pretty much the same exact stuff you just wrote to you & you told me he had the biggest bust potential of the draft... BRIGGS BRIGGS BRIGGS *sigh*

[Edited by - TMS on 06-25-2008 3:03 PM]
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6/25/2008  6:13 PM
His legs do look kinda stiff...
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6/25/2008  6:16 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

His legs do look kinda stiff...

What are you talking about? The man is nearly 7' tall and has a sick handle!!! He's basically Lamar Odom with an aggressive offensive attitude. To me that's a heck of a combination. He seems VERY fluid for such a tall kid and he seems to be able to get to where he wants and change direction at will. I think he's a fine prospect.
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6/25/2008  6:37 PM
One thing to remember is that he's playing against men on these videos, not 20 yr old kids.

Whatever the Euroleague level is compared to the nba is meaningless at this point cause what counts is how does euroleague would fare against NCAA.

Guys like diaw, pietrus, parker have played to some extend in euroleague. It's not a subpar CBA and playing there at that level must tell something about DG's skills.
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6/25/2008  6:40 PM
I will join the Galinari looks alright brigade. He would probably be a decent pick at 6. I like what I have seen from him previously, and this tape showed a lot of what he can do. He is versatile on offense. Unfortunately highlight tapes are not made to expose weaknesses. However, he looks pretty damn athletic to me. Not freakish, but by no means is he a land-lubber like Mike Sweetney or Lampe.

Add to that his ball-handling and shooting ability with a solid physique and he should at least be a good offensive NBA player. That is what you're really looking for from pick 6 and on in this day and age. Good players, not guaranteed stars.

In no way can Gallinari be one of the biggest busts ever because he doesn't have enough hype coming in. Think Harold Miner.

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6/25/2008  6:51 PM
If we stay at 6, I wouldn't mind Galinari. You guys are expecting too much at that draft position.
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6/25/2008  6:54 PM
If he can add more muscle, he can be a really good power forward in D'Antoni's offense. He'll be able to spread the offense, open up the paint, and put the ball on the deck and go around most PF's.
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6/25/2008  6:55 PM
He just needs to do something about those stiff legs.
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6/26/2008  12:42 PM
Posted by Nalod:

At 19 he is playing in a league better than most college div 1 leagues. and he is getting it done!

Since we are comping him to other white players, why not Dirk? Dirk is not "athletic". Dano is 6-10 and has a pretty good handle. As he fills out he can move over to the 4 spot if power takes his quickness.

How about comparing him to Boston Nachbar of NJ NETS!

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6/26/2008  1:07 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Nalod:

At 19 he is playing in a league better than most college div 1 leagues. and he is getting it done!

Since we are comping him to other white players, why not Dirk? Dirk is not "athletic". Dano is 6-10 and has a pretty good handle. As he fills out he can move over to the 4 spot if power takes his quickness.

How about comparing him to Boston Nachbar of NJ NETS!

Looks more like a combo of Allan Houston and Keith Van Horn (At least when Van Horn is playing well). Houston because he uses a couple of dribbles to free himself for a mid range shot, and has almost the same skill set. Van Horn, just b/c he's 6'10". I am real nervous about this kids defense though.
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6/26/2008  1:35 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Nalod:

At 19 he is playing in a league better than most college div 1 leagues. and he is getting it done!

Since we are comping him to other white players, why not Dirk? Dirk is not "athletic". Dano is 6-10 and has a pretty good handle. As he fills out he can move over to the 4 spot if power takes his quickness.

How about comparing him to Boston Nachbar of NJ NETS!

Looks more like a combo of Allan Houston and Keith Van Horn (At least when Van Horn is playing well). Houston because he uses a couple of dribbles to free himself for a mid range shot, and has almost the same skill set. Van Horn, just b/c he's 6'10" and white. I am real nervous about this kids defense though.

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6/26/2008  1:38 PM
I'd have no problem with Galinari. I will get up and leave the draft if we get Gordon.
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6/26/2008  2:39 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Nalod:

At 19 he is playing in a league better than most college div 1 leagues. and he is getting it done!

Since we are comping him to other white players, why not Dirk? Dirk is not "athletic". Dano is 6-10 and has a pretty good handle. As he fills out he can move over to the 4 spot if power takes his quickness.

How about comparing him to Boston Nachbar of NJ NETS!

Looks more like a combo of Allan Houston and Keith Van Horn (At least when Van Horn is playing well). Houston because he uses a couple of dribbles to free himself for a mid range shot, and has almost the same skill set. Van Horn, just b/c he's 6'10". I am real nervous about this kids defense though.

Gallinari looks more mobile & fluid off the dribble than Van Horn IMHO.
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6/26/2008  2:42 PM
Van Horn was the biggest Hero in College basketball in his Junior year and had pro-star written all over him more than Gallinari by a long shot.

Van Horn was well on his way to being star player in the NBA but was sideline by multiple broken leg and ankle injuries. All this "He wasn't tough" stuff is mostly B.S. He was fragile.

Remember when Van Horn was with the Knicks? Don't tell me he wasn't a very good player!

If Gallinari has Van Horn potential, the Knicks better draft him!

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6/26/2008  3:09 PM
Posted by oohah:

Van Horn was the biggest Hero in College basketball in his Junior year and had pro-star written all over him more than Gallinari by a long shot.

Van Horn was well on his way to being star player in the NBA but was sideline by multiple broken leg and ankle injuries. All this "He wasn't tough" stuff is mostly B.S. He was fragile.

Remember when Van Horn was with the Knicks? Don't tell me he wasn't a very good player!

If Gallinari has Van Horn potential, the Knicks better draft him!

oohah

i ain't knockin' VH... i know he was highly touted coming out of college, but also remember Gallinari's a 19 yo kid who we all have very limited knowledge about who has played against grown men & proven himself on that level... not NBA level talent but likely higher level of competition overall than in the NCAA... i'm talking about the "gutless" label that everyone seems to wanna place on this kid just because he's coming out from the Euro leagues... last time i checked those "gutless" Euro teams have given the US Dream Teams all they could handle the past decade in international competition.
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6/26/2008  3:27 PM
Posted by oohah:

Van Horn was the biggest Hero in College basketball in his Junior year and had pro-star written all over him more than Gallinari by a long shot.

Van Horn was well on his way to being star player in the NBA but was sideline by multiple broken leg and ankle injuries. All this "He wasn't tough" stuff is mostly B.S. He was fragile.

Remember when Van Horn was with the Knicks? Don't tell me he wasn't a very good player!

If Gallinari has Van Horn potential, the Knicks better draft him!

oohah

Van Horn stunk like donkey balls for his first couple of months with the Knicks, then he started playing well for his final couple of months, until he was traded. He NEVER played well in the 4th quarter though.

TMS, when Van Horn was playing well, his move off the dribble was as smooth as anyones.

Panos, I compared him to Allan Houston too.
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6/26/2008  3:29 PM
Van Horn stunk like donkey balls for his first couple of months with the Knicks, then he started playing well for his final couple of months, until he was traded. He NEVER played well in the 4th quarter though.

I think your assessment is slightly extreme. I also disagree about the fourth quarter, whether with the Knicks or previously. I recall him making some game winners and daggers once he got comfortable with what the Knicks were doing. That's why people were starting warm up to him.

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[Edited by - oohah on 26-06-2008 3:30 PM]
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6/26/2008  4:18 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Nalod:

At 19 he is playing in a league better than most college div 1 leagues. and he is getting it done!

Since we are comping him to other white players, why not Dirk? Dirk is not "athletic". Dano is 6-10 and has a pretty good handle. As he fills out he can move over to the 4 spot if power takes his quickness.

How about comparing him to Boston Nachbar of NJ NETS!

Looks more like a combo of Allan Houston and Keith Van Horn (At least when Van Horn is playing well). Houston because he uses a couple of dribbles to free himself for a mid range shot, and has almost the same skill set. Van Horn, just b/c he's 6'10". I am real nervous about this kids defense though.

Gallinari looks more mobile & fluid off the dribble than Van Horn IMHO.

I was very impressed by this latest DG video. Looks like a complete package on offense. I don't see stiff legs at all. I see extremely long strides - this guy gets where he wants to go when driving the ball. He actually looks like an even more mobile Dirk Nowitzki. Scary.... Anyone know anything about the other parts of his game - rebounding, defense?????
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