Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by crzymdups:

i remember seeing tj ford during the 05-06 season (last time i had league pass) and he was a real impact player for the raps. i would love him, BUT he's too huge a risk. if he could stay healthy or wasn't a risk, toronto would try to keep him.

Well I guess that's part of the reason he's on the block. If TJ could stay healthy than it would be more than worth it for us to trade for him. It's one of those gambles that could pan out big time or blow up big time. I wouldn't mind trading for TJ since D'antoni probably wants another savvy PG to make his system work, but I wouldn't give up to much. Crawford, (and possibly some add-ons) is all I'd give for him.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by crzymdups:

i remember seeing tj ford during the 05-06 season (last time i had league pass) and he was a real impact player for the raps. i would love him, BUT he's too huge a risk. if he could stay healthy or wasn't a risk, toronto would try to keep him.

if this news story rumor has any truth to it then offering up Jamal for Ford is definitely overpaying:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/06/19/20080619sunsnotes.html

A Diaw trade possibility involved Toronto, where talk centered on Diaw leaving for point guard T.J. Ford and the Raptors' No. 17 pick in Thursday's draft. Talks cooled but might reignite with Porter aboard. In Porter's first season as Milwaukee's head coach, Ford helped the Bucks to a 41-41 playoff season. When Ford missed the next season after neck surgery, the Bucks went 30-52 and fired Porter.

Ford, 25, is drawing interest but is a risk after having two vertebrae fused in 2004. He has three contract years worth $25 million remaining.

The Raptors, run by ex-Suns President Bryan Colangelo, just bought out Jorge Garbajosa and might be looking for a versatile forward such as Diaw, who will make $9 million in each of the next four seasons.

offer up Jared Jefferies & Nate for Ford & the #17

The Phoenix Suns have been fishing for another first round draft pick and have been dangling Boris Diaw and Leandro Barbosa as bait. The latest out of Phoenix is that the Suns may have found their pick. The Suns would reportedly send Diaw to the Toronto Raptors for point guard TJ Ford and the #17 pick.

The primary stumbling block to this rumor is that TJ Ford has been fairly adamant that he wants to start, which is the reason for the trade in the first place. Ford is likely to lose his starting spot to Jose Calderon, and would like to be traded to a situation where he can continue to start. That wouldn't be the case in Phoenix, where unless Steve Nash has some nasty injury Ford would continue to be a reserve. Then there's the fact that Suns GM Steve Kerr is interested in a player he doesn't think will be available when the Suns pick at 15, and the Raptors' #17 pick doesn't help that situation at all.

A more likely move would be for the Suns to send Barbosa to Portland, where the #13 pick is rumored to be in play. While there's a lot of truth to the Blazers wanting to deal picks for players, new head coach (and former Blazer) Terry Porter seems to be leaning towards keeping Barbosa in Phoenix. Barbosa has offered up that he would really like to stay, as well.

It appears there is more work to be done for the Suns to move up in the draft and get their targeted player.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by djsunyc:

diaw on the raptors would be terrible. it won't work...he and bosh operate in the same are on the floor. unless he's the primary big man off the bench.

plus, i think diaw is fugazy. his #'s are inflated b/c of their style of play, raptors are building a more 1/2 court team...so i don't see a fit.

I disagree Diaw can play the 3/4 and defend 4 positions. I think you'd see Bosh move to Center some and Sam can go small A LA Phoenix when Amare switched from a 4 to play the 5 while Diaw played the 4. It's very similar Marion/Diaw/Amare Moon/Diaw/Bosh. The reason not to like it is because Diaw is all finesse, not a lick of toughness in him but he fits the current style and personality of the Raptors. I also think there would be more to the deal than just Diaw.

goes against what bc said his objective is for this summer. get a big man to protect bosh. plus, they ain't jeopardizing bargs role on the team just yet. they are not building pheonix east. they are building utah north.

It would give BC flexibility to put Bargs and Nesty in play for a splash. Maybe Jokafor? Maybe they buy a second round pick from someone and draft Dorsey, DJ White? There really aren't any big bad bodies out there available that are sure fire compliments to Bosh. There's J.O.(injury prone), Camby(nice but aging and not exactly nasty), Wilcox and Petro(big guys but still not intimidating to no one) possibly Brand but Toronto doesn't have the pieces to make it work not in case they do T.J., Bargs, and 17 for EB.

The trade isn't as bad as it looks and like I said there's probably a little more to it especially if it has to be revisited. I think Phx wants DJ or Rush and both probably are gone by 17.