Posted by nyballer:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by nyballer:

i dont like love at all, don't think he will be much in the nba.

i saw channing frye play, him and brook were totally different. brook is not a jumpshooter - he plays inside but has the jumpshot to hit if he is open. stanford would bring the ball down the court and brook would set up down low, if they did a good enough job denying the entry pass brook would flash out to set a pick and off of the pick he'd get open shots. but brook was the #1 option and he was a post option.

salim stoudemire was the top option on channing frye's arizona team his last year, he was primarily a jump shooter. he rarely was the go to option in the post and seemed too scared to go inside, even against teams that had no inside presence. brook is bigger (wont get pushed around inside) and will be more assertive. i mean brook put up 19 8 and 2 as a sophomore, frye was a senior putting up 14 and 6 or something.

frye's problem was he was a jumpshooter first post player distant second - lopez is a post player more than a shooter, people just talk about his shooting so much because he is 7'0 tall. for the record i was 100% opposed to drafting channing frye, i wanted granger or gerald green in that draft. I'm not saying we should draft lopez because I dont know how hed fit in to D'antoni's style and with our bigs, but i think everyone here is writing him off without really seeing him or giving him a fair shot bc he is a pac-10 center.

So my question to you is will Brook Lopez show more than Channing Frye in the NBA?

...yes

Ok NYBaller, you made your case, I will wait to see what mr lopez does in the upcoming season and draft and hear what you have to say when he becomes a stiff in the association.

Posted by BlacKat:

1) Westbrook
2) Alexander
3) Randolph

Posted by BRIGGS:

Cant really ask this question until tonight. If someone slips and becomes a value pick below 17--there is a significant difference from being drafted high-mid and low lottery. If there were Veagas odds--there would be a (bust prospect if we were taking bets) foreign playter selected top 17 --look at the history
1999 fred weis-utter bust/2000 Hidayet Türkoglu has taken time but has evolved into a very nice nBA player nice 16 pick
2001 Pau Gasol--excellent NBA player Vladimr Radman--fair NBA player
2002 Yao--has been solid but I think a little under expectations
skita--bust nachbar--fair bust welsch--utter bust
2003 darko- gigantic bust pietrus--fair NBA player who has underacheived
Aleksandar Pavlovic only a fair prospect at best
Zarko Cabarkapa-complete bust
2004 Andris Biendrins--excellent pick
2005 fran vazquez---disaster pick korlev--absolute bust
2006 although this is early to judge I would start off by saying bargs being picked 1==significant bust at this point sene--bust thabo--fair prospect but could go either way

so over the last 10 years we've had 18 top 17 picks from foreign players
rating excellent good fair bust [also conidering spot taken]

excellent players Yao Gasol Biendrins
Good Hedo
Fair Radman Pietrus Pavolovic Thabo nachbar
bust 9 of them

You have a 50% bust factor from anywhere up to pick 1
excellent player past pick 3 [4+] 1/14 [relative to our pick 6]
Good 1/14 [so the odds were looking at to get a good-excellent player 1/7]
fair 5/14
bust 7/14 [odds we are getting a fair to bust player 6/7 or 85+%]

Many of these players had very good statistical numbers in the euro leagues and their scouting reports if you look back are very hyped compared to what they actually performed at in the nBA. Taking a foreign player at 6 is a very risky bet.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-26-2008 10:52 AM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-26-2008 10:59 AM]