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martin
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5/19/2008  11:12 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by bitty41:

Why because he played for Toronto this guy is underachiever with a very suspect work ethic I just don't see the interest in the guy.

not at all, charlie v is tim thomas redux, but it's curious why alot of articles after the donnie walsh hiring are not portraying david lee in the best light.

Trying to prepare us for when they trade away DLee as a sweetner for our garbage? To soften the blow?

looks like it. or i could even see them trying to lessen his market value so they don't have to pay as much. i could also see some rival gm's leaking these bogus rumors to lessen his trade value as well.

it would be interesting to get a snapshot of the Donnie Walsh trades and see if he ever was taken like Isiah. Other GMs may try to put out bogus reports on Lee but that don't mean Donnie is paying attention to it.
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5/19/2008  11:47 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by bitty41:

Why because he played for Toronto this guy is underachiever with a very suspect work ethic I just don't see the interest in the guy.

not at all, charlie v is tim thomas redux, but it's curious why alot of articles after the donnie walsh hiring are not portraying david lee in the best light.

Because they aren't overvaluing d.lee like newyork fans do.

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5/19/2008  11:49 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by playa2:

David Lee is a good white ever improving hustle player with a suspect outside shot.

D'Antoni knows what he's looking for and david lee isn't it.

That's ok , many cities in the NBA want a guy like david lee and won't ask him to shoot jumpshots from the outside.

IMHO he's great trade bait for what we don't have , a rebounding shotblocking center and a young up and coming pg.


Thanks David , you were our great white hope in NY, but Isiah screwed up the roster and under D'Antoni you are expendable.

[Edited by - playa2 on 19-05-2008 07:14]

How do we know what D'Antoni wants?

Just because Lee can't shoot doesn't mean D'Antoni will want Lee gone- No one on this team can shoot, outside of Nate.

And if D'Antoni could choose between Lee & Zach, irrespective of contracts, I strongly believe it would be Lee, not Zach, even though Zach 'can shoot'.

Lee contract can easily be traded, Zach's contract is not that easy to move.

Zach can play inside outside and reb, lee can only play inside and reb.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/19/2008  12:33 PM
a double double player that shoots > 50% and makes $1mm in the NBA is a great commodity no matter what the team's style. I wouldnt say he's overvalued.

Charlie V shot 43% last year. Lee shot 55%.

I guess Zach and Charlie are more versatile players because they can miss the basket from anywhere on the court.

I think the #1 thing to fix on this team is FG%. Go down our roster and see what they shot last year. Its embarassing
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5/19/2008  12:34 PM
I think there is going to be a white on white crime going down in New York this summer.
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5/19/2008  12:35 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by playa2:

David Lee is a good white ever improving hustle player with a suspect outside shot.

D'Antoni knows what he's looking for and david lee isn't it.

That's ok , many cities in the NBA want a guy like david lee and won't ask him to shoot jumpshots from the outside.

IMHO he's great trade bait for what we don't have , a rebounding shotblocking center and a young up and coming pg.


Thanks David , you were our great white hope in NY, but Isiah screwed up the roster and under D'Antoni you are expendable.

[Edited by - playa2 on 19-05-2008 07:14]

How do we know what D'Antoni wants?

Just because Lee can't shoot doesn't mean D'Antoni will want Lee gone- No one on this team can shoot, outside of Nate.

And if D'Antoni could choose between Lee & Zach, irrespective of contracts, I strongly believe it would be Lee, not Zach, even though Zach 'can shoot'.

Lee contract can easily be traded, Zach's contract is not that easy to move.

Zach can play inside outside and reb, lee can only play inside and reb.

I don't remember the exact words d'antoni used but i'll try my best:" . . . guys that can shoot(zach from outside, lee from inside), run(lee), pass(lee), defend(draw), rest i can't recall, i only remember"being a good teammate"(lee). I don't know how many qualities i missed out of what he said he looks for in a player but Lee is probably better than zach at everything other than shoot from outside. Lee might compensate by being more effective scorer and not needing shots to score. Might not, but still zach is far from automatic from outside so I think D'antoni might Like Lee better based on what he said were the qualities that he looks for in a player.

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5/19/2008  1:45 PM
Posted by ramtour420:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by playa2:

David Lee is a good white ever improving hustle player with a suspect outside shot.

D'Antoni knows what he's looking for and david lee isn't it.

That's ok , many cities in the NBA want a guy like david lee and won't ask him to shoot jumpshots from the outside.

IMHO he's great trade bait for what we don't have , a rebounding shotblocking center and a young up and coming pg.


Thanks David , you were our great white hope in NY, but Isiah screwed up the roster and under D'Antoni you are expendable.

[Edited by - playa2 on 19-05-2008 07:14]

How do we know what D'Antoni wants?

Just because Lee can't shoot doesn't mean D'Antoni will want Lee gone- No one on this team can shoot, outside of Nate.

And if D'Antoni could choose between Lee & Zach, irrespective of contracts, I strongly believe it would be Lee, not Zach, even though Zach 'can shoot'.

Lee contract can easily be traded, Zach's contract is not that easy to move.

Zach can play inside outside and reb, lee can only play inside and reb.

I don't remember the exact words d'antoni used but i'll try my best:" . . . guys that can shoot(zach from outside, lee from inside), run(lee), pass(lee), defend(draw), rest i can't recall, i only remember"being a good teammate"(lee). I don't know how many qualities i missed out of what he said he looks for in a player but Lee is probably better than zach at everything other than shoot from outside. Lee might compensate by being more effective scorer and not needing shots to score. Might not, but still zach is far from automatic from outside so I think D'antoni might Like Lee better based on what he said were the qualities that he looks for in a player.

D'Antoni also wants guys that can make quick decisions on offense.

I guess Zach is his kinda player cause he quickly decides he is going to shoot
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5/19/2008  3:47 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by ramtour420:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by playa2:

David Lee is a good white ever improving hustle player with a suspect outside shot.

D'Antoni knows what he's looking for and david lee isn't it.

That's ok , many cities in the NBA want a guy like david lee and won't ask him to shoot jumpshots from the outside.

IMHO he's great trade bait for what we don't have , a rebounding shotblocking center and a young up and coming pg.


Thanks David , you were our great white hope in NY, but Isiah screwed up the roster and under D'Antoni you are expendable.

[Edited by - playa2 on 19-05-2008 07:14]

How do we know what D'Antoni wants?

Just because Lee can't shoot doesn't mean D'Antoni will want Lee gone- No one on this team can shoot, outside of Nate.

And if D'Antoni could choose between Lee & Zach, irrespective of contracts, I strongly believe it would be Lee, not Zach, even though Zach 'can shoot'.

Lee contract can easily be traded, Zach's contract is not that easy to move.

Zach can play inside outside and reb, lee can only play inside and reb.

I don't remember the exact words d'antoni used but i'll try my best:" . . . guys that can shoot(zach from outside, lee from inside), run(lee), pass(lee), defend(draw), rest i can't recall, i only remember"being a good teammate"(lee). I don't know how many qualities i missed out of what he said he looks for in a player but Lee is probably better than zach at everything other than shoot from outside. Lee might compensate by being more effective scorer and not needing shots to score. Might not, but still zach is far from automatic from outside so I think D'antoni might Like Lee better based on what he said were the qualities that he looks for in a player.

D'Antoni also wants guys that can make quick decisions on offense.

I guess Zach is his kinda player cause he quickly decides he is going to shoot

lol yeah. Don't forget that one move where he'll fake like he's gonna shoot, then fake again, then again, then take a jumpshot with the defender in his face.
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5/19/2008  4:25 PM
Well, now that we have a X and 0 coach who likes his team to buy into his gameplan i think this year will really separate the boys from men. Yeah Zeke had about nothing for a clue as to what kind of a system to use with our players. His ideas to run, dump it to Eddie, and his last year which deserves an honorable mention alone showed that he cannot give our guys anything to try to learn.\

D'Antoni will give them the system, the breakdown, all the needed stuff to buy into, go out there and kick ass. I am curious as to who will do it and who woun't. I think that what it really will come down to as far as which players will be the best fit for this team. Guys always had to do that in the nba but having a coach that the players belive in is huge. Just another reason why Marbs will have a great year, maybe not superstar year but better than what happened with Larry Brown. I am just purely hoping at this point for all of our guys to get in great shape and try their hardest to not just do their thing but to actually become a real part of this team and maybe its future. Not to mention the fact that after this year every player has the best chance of their carier to show everyone that yes, he can work with the coach and be a part of the strategy.


Its like May right now and i am already thinking October. Next year is definately gonna be one of the most fun years for me as a Knicks fan.
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5/20/2008  11:17 AM
Playa is crazy....LOL


Maybe we can trade Lee for a pick and get Joe Alexander, the new white hope!!!!
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