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NYK8
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7/19/2003  1:29 PM
i like the KVH 3way trade.IMO KVH is due to reach the peek of his game n hopefully it will be as a knick.This team needs a change at s/f!Looks like we cant get Walker or Odom so our last choice is KVH.
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7/19/2003  2:05 PM
Posted by playa2:

Nobody wanna give the knicks a player to turn MSG out. Be FOREAL man.

What is FOR REAL is that KVH (FVC) is a cornball. He's just too damn soft for what we need. It doesn't get any more REAL than that.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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7/19/2003  2:16 PM
Posted by NYK8:

i like the KVH 3way trade.IMO KVH is due to reach the peek of his game n hopefully it will be as a knick.This team needs a change at s/f!Looks like we cant get Walker or Odom so our last choice is KVH.

In your opinion, do you think that there is no one better suited than KVH? Any suggestions?

If the answer to the first question is no, do you think we should trade KT (b/c Phhilly wants him over Spree) for him?
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7/19/2003  4:01 PM
i would suggest J.Posey but he lacks in rebs.& size.so the answer is no.For the next question,i would only trade Thomas for a center.Why?Cuz no one else is as good as Thomas on the team to replace him as the knicks starting center.

[Edited by - nyk8 on 07/19/2003 16:03:05]
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7/19/2003  10:46 PM
Posted by ARES:

hard core, praying wont help

god must like the lakers or something.

i think layden wants a all utah team. any affliation with utah is good for him.

Nope, cuz if he did, Kobe would have gotten off scott free. Nope, God is a SA Spurs fan, with the Cowboy hat to boot.

[Edited by - masterjedidarkcaster on 07/19/2003 23:03:17]
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7/20/2003  4:19 AM
Posted by masterjedidarkcaster:
Posted by ARES:

hard core, praying wont help

god must like the lakers or something.

i think layden wants a all utah team. any affliation with utah is good for him.

Nope, cuz if he did, Kobe would have gotten off scott free. Nope, God is a SA Spurs fan, with the Cowboy hat to boot.

[Edited by - masterjedidarkcaster on 07/19/2003 23:03:17]

LOL jedi.... I was looking for that same entry (but I 4got which thread it was on) to say the same thing... Good post.
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7/20/2003  12:51 PM
And the best thing about it is that it is 100 percent true.
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7/20/2003  4:35 PM
there goes scott layden trying to bring more players with utah connection only making the Knicks softer...but he is such a proper youngman without any baggage...(without heart if you ask me).
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7/20/2003  6:09 PM
ayo im tired of hearing about heart and who got balls.Knicks had so many of these heart players such as Oakley,Mason,Starks,Harper,LJ,Thomas,Spree,Childs,Jackson,Ewing and have not brought NY what we been waiting for.It takes Team Effort and Team Chemistry to win,which the knicks are trying to built on with these rooks and some new blood. Its to much Whining going on STOP the B/S!

[Edited by - nyk8 on 07/20/2003 18:10:33]
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7/20/2003  7:09 PM
Posted by playa2:

Funny how "NOBODY" I mean NOBODY(foghorn leg horn) wants the knicks so-called best player. ROFL

well I think that signifies more of how bad the knicks are than how bad spree is..

So what is your point?
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7/20/2003  10:51 PM
come on tk you know playa has no point

has he ever had a point. be honest
all those years as a fan and now i'm the anti-knick. life is crazy aint it.
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7/21/2003  6:44 AM
Posted by NYK8:

ayo im tired of hearing about heart and who got balls.Knicks had so many of these heart players such as Oakley,Mason,Starks,Harper,LJ,Thomas,Spree,Childs,Jackson,Ewing and have not brought NY what we been waiting for.It takes Team Effort and Team Chemistry to win,which the knicks are trying to built on with these rooks and some new blood. Its to much Whining going on STOP the B/S!

[Edited by - nyk8 on 07/20/2003 18:10:33]
NYK8 Tell these guys something they are starting to get pathetic. We didn't win "jack with the ruff neck players and we got simple simons still going with the same type of players. AND FOR THAT I LAUGH AT THEM!
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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7/21/2003  8:37 AM
Posted by NYK8:

ayo im tired of hearing about heart and who got balls.Knicks had so many of these heart players such as Oakley,Mason,Starks,Harper,LJ,Thomas,Spree,Childs,Jackson,Ewing and have not brought NY what we been waiting for.It takes Team Effort and Team Chemistry to win,which the knicks are trying to built on with these rooks and some new blood. Its to much Whining going on STOP the B/S!

[Edited by - nyk8 on 07/20/2003 18:10:33]

ayo, I can see why you'd be tired. They didn't produce a title after all that teasing. Much better to be like we are now where there is NO chance at the ring and all the less heartbreak.
I mean, we still get our hopes up that Stern will pull the old fixeroo and land us a Lebron, but besides that we know (well, must of us, that is) that NY sucks and as such, don't get our hopes up.
I can see your point. Let's stop the whining.
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7/21/2003  12:33 PM
Posted by prodson:

come on tk you know playa has no point

has he ever had a point. be honest

I think your right prod. He just seems to ramble: "Yada yada yada... Allan Houston is god...yada yada yada....Spree sucks....yada yada yada...Allan Houston Owns Kobe...yada yada yada".

No point at all.
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7/21/2003  1:19 PM
The only reason that the knicks didnt win with that team (oakley, ewing, harper, starks, etc.. .is because their was a guy out their with the name of Michael Jordan. If he never played, that knicks team woould have won at least 3 championships.... For years, the bulls ousted us from the playoffs. The one year that jordan was out, we went to finals, and shouldve one..... You need heart to win....
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7/22/2003  4:45 PM
Posted by NYK8:

Miller wants out hes out simple. then there would be a sign n trade cuz pacers wont let him walk for nothin.Believe me the Pacers are better off wit Spree than Miller n the Knicks need Miller more than Spree.b4 Miller got there Foster was the center doin a pretty good job.O'Neal could do the job even better.Brezec is a back up similar to Doleac.They would have no problems.
The one thing great PF don't want to do is play center. So Oneal is out. Miller is not going anywhere. This trade is not happening.
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7/22/2003  4:48 PM
Posted by playa2:

In defense of Vanhorn : Keith Van Horn's college coach believes the much-maligned Philadelphia forward can resurrect his career in New York.
"I don't want sound like a Little League parent, but Keith had some of his best years when he didn't have (Stephon) Marbury and (Allen) Iverson," said Rick Majerus, the University of Utah coach. "Those are two great players but they can be hard to play with because they monopolize the ball. I have always said that he would fit In WELL IN A PLACE LIKE UTAH! If Layden can deal for Van Horn without having to give up Thomas, that would prevent the Knicks from having to find a starting center.


[Edited by - playa2 on 07/19/2003 09:39:09]
News Flash Kurt is not a center! The quicker we realize this the quicker we will be on our way to getting out of the basement of the NBA.

[Edited by - nwny on 07/22/2003 18:02:30]

[Edited by - nwny on 07/22/2003 18:03:07]
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7/22/2003  4:55 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by playa2:

Nobody wanna give the knicks a player to turn MSG out. Be FOREAL man.

What is FOR REAL is that KVH (FVC) is a cornball. He's just too damn soft for what we need. It doesn't get any more REAL than that.
I'm not exactly sure how a guy who grabs 7.1 boards a game when our starting center grabs 7.9 per game, can be considered soft. you must have some other definition for the word soft.
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7/22/2003  5:20 PM
Posted by nwny:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by playa2:

Nobody wanna give the knicks a player to turn MSG out. Be FOREAL man.

What is FOR REAL is that KVH (FVC) is a cornball. He's just too damn soft for what we need. It doesn't get any more REAL than that.
I'm not exactly sure how a guy who grabs 7.1 boards a game when our starting center grabs 7.9 per game, can be considered soft. you must have some other definition for the word soft.

Being soft has nothing to do with numbers, nwny. Having that fire, that passion for the game plus skill is what I said we need.

As for those who seemed to have a problem with my other post:

We don't have enough players who are willing to put it all on the line for us to win. I hear people jawjackin' about not wanting to hear about heart and balls, but maybe they want players on this team that lacks those things as much as they do. Yeah I said it, and no matter who (read: NYK8 and playa2) happen to be too blind or oblivious to see it, Heart, Fire and Skill are qualities that we need in the players on this team. Only an idiot would attempt to argue that down.

Now on to the bottom line...

I like to see players who hustle, play hard, and not get punked down while utilizing their skill play for the Knicks. I know I am not alone. Too many who post on these boards have the common sense to understand that what I am saying here is a far cry from rocket science.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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7/22/2003  5:41 PM
hey, what's up with horney's hair man? he's got some kinda cowlick thang goin' on. he looks like alfalfa from "our gang". we don't need him. him and houston don't have two ballz between them.
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