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5/15/2008  12:53 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Lee should be shooting jump shots by himself all summer. This is just a way for him to avoid the real problem: his jump shot. He's going to be wasting time communicating with Steve. They'll obviously at least say "hello" every day and probably talk even more than that. All that is valuable time he should be spending on his jump shot.

You know the funny thing is Mark Blount has worked out with Alonzo Mourning for about 5yrs now and Mark Blount has had a couple good seasons as a pro, and has a pretty good jumper for a big man, but he's just Mark Blount.

I hope Nash teaches him a thing or three but some of these players need to find their way on their own instead of leeching. Great players became great from their own self will not by piggy backing. And isnt this an insult to Marbury?

More gold!

Lee is a leeching, time-wasting player. And it's definitely an insult to Marbury whom I am sure sent full team invites to hike in the mountains, no one got in the truck this time except his younger bro.


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5/15/2008  12:56 PM
It's not surprising at all that the most dedicated Knick is doing what he can to get ready for the new coach. Make him the captain already.
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5/15/2008  12:58 PM
Posted by King1:

No I dont think he did. I think he competed in games. Does he work harder than anyone else in the summer? Yes. I am not going to make excuses for last season but if you work in a quiet office and they had a band playing everyday would your work efficiency go down. When you have no leadership, no practice, and bad working conditions I think it effects everyone.

You're making excuses for him a tad.

I Don't think Lee gave "I'm in/approaching a contract yr effort last yr from start to finish."

Know this, if by chance D'Antoni has a horrible first season Lee is assured to bust AZZ from start to finish regardless of whatever is going on around him. It's not Like Lee hasn't had 3 yrs to get comfortable with the Circus that took place since he became a rookie.
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5/15/2008  1:15 PM
My opinion was he didnt work on his game by himself at the end of the season. He played hard in the games but I think with a new regime you will see Quentin and Eddy in shape when the season starts. THere is going to be accountability now which helps the guys that do things the right way
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5/15/2008  1:44 PM
Posted by playa2:
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i heard nash and lee will be joined by kapono, cardinal and brad miller. also joining them will be chris anderson.

yo son, brotha's gotta stick together son...



[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-15-2008 10:29 AM]



Nash and Nowitzki has been hanging out with these guys the BONG and Jack Boys.



Little wally szerbiack with the gang sign next to a young nowitzki in the bong, with carlos delfino in the back with his argentinian gang sign.





[Edited by - playa2 on 15-05-2008 11:13]

I thought the guy with bong is the great Moustachio.
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5/15/2008  2:18 PM
Posted by King1:

My opinion was he didnt work on his game by himself at the end of the season. He played hard in the games but I think with a new regime you will see Quentin and Eddy in shape when the season starts. THere is going to be accountability now which helps the guys that do things the right way


LOLOLOLOLOL Q and Eddy; Q hasn't been in shape since 2002 and Eddy well Eddy hasn't seen a cheeseburger he didn't like regardless of his coach.
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5/15/2008  2:26 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by King1:

My opinion was he didnt work on his game by himself at the end of the season. He played hard in the games but I think with a new regime you will see Quentin and Eddy in shape when the season starts. THere is going to be accountability now which helps the guys that do things the right way


LOLOLOLOLOL Q and Eddy; Q hasn't been in shape since 2002 and Eddy well Eddy hasn't seen a stack of 30 cheeseburgers he didn't like regardless of his coach.

Corrected.
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5/15/2008  2:28 PM
this thread is funny as hell...along with whatever mental tips Lee can gain from Nash about the offense, he maybe just maybe might pick up a few pointers on shooting from one of the game's best shooters

seemed to have worked for Amare...

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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5/15/2008  4:03 PM
Posted by bitty41:

In other news Zach Randolph works out with Amare Stoudamire to get more acclimated with D'Antoni's defensive system.

In other other news Jerome James challenges Shaq to the annual hotdog eating contest at Coney Island.

good to see more dedication from our players.
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5/15/2008  4:04 PM
Posted by martin:

the Pessimism runs deeps.

so deep... so deep put er ass to sleep!
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5/18/2008  7:44 AM
Mike doesn't like guys like Lee who can't shoot," a D'Antoni confidant said. "He saw him as a non-scoring power forward when he came out of Florida. But that's why a guy like Jamal Crawford is going to be around. He will thrive in Mike's system. And he likes Nate a lot, too. Mike likes guys who can make plays from anywhere on the court."
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5/18/2008  12:09 PM
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/mvpworkout_071107.html


Steve Nash's MVP Workout
By Stefan Swiat

November 15, 2007 -- Players are often branded with unfair stereotypes by critics that mask their prejudices with conventional wisdom.

One of the prevalent knocks on Steve Nash by critics is that as an athlete, he is considered ordinary. Unfortunately for them, that assessment is "extra-ordinarily" misguided.

While Nash may not be the type of point guard who throws down alley-oops or sets bench-press records, the two-time MVP possesses certain physical attributes that could be considered even more exceptional. Balance, core strength, eye-hand coordination and the ability to change speed and direction quickly – while often unappreciated – are vital components of the elite athlete.

Like all sports greats, the complete game that Nash exhibits to Suns fans on a nightly basis is the result of a limitless amount of work. What distinguishes Nash from other athletes with an insatiable work ethic is his ability to not only work hard, but to work smart.

On PBS’ Charlie Rose Show over the summer, Nash talked about how he designed his game around the natural talents that he possesses. His one-legged running floaters, body-contorting passes and lane-carving penetrations are the result of an analysis of how he could be most effective. However, in order to complete those plays and moves, he needs to possess the balance, quickness and flexibility to perform them. He also had to have the endurance to sustain an intense pace for over 35 minutes a game.

Nash focuses intensely on his cardio-vascular conditioning.
Daniel Banks/Suns.com

In order to create these specific athletic movements, Nash began to work with physiotherapist Rick Celebrini. A former Canadian national and professional soccer player, Celebrini was first recruited by Nash early in his career to help him with his ailing back.

Nash’s congenital back condition, spondylolisthesis, has been well-publicized, but it has been kept at bay due to the technical work that Nash has performed during his summers. After experiencing success with Celebrini early in his career, Nash re-enlisted his help when he left Dallas to sign with Phoenix. During that summer, Nash and Celebrini underwent two-a-day workouts for six weeks in order to help him correct and economize his physical movements.

“We changed the way he ran and especially the way he changed direction,” Celebrini said. “We both recognized that there were ways in which he moved that were a direct result of his weaknesses and past injuries.

“We had to break down those movements and slowly recreate them through repetition. By correcting movement dysfunctions, we are able to prevent injury, optimize the bio-mechanical efficiency of the body and bring about performance enhancement.”

Nash believes that the correctional exercises he performs allows him to persevere through the grinding NBA schedule.

“All of Rick's philosophies and exercises are about pure movement and moving properly with the right sequence and firing the muscles," Nash said. "They allow me to prevent injury, sustain fitness and maintain my level of play through all of these games despite having a bad back."

That’s why at the end of practice, one can find Nash doing footwork and other exercises that help with his body’s mechanics. In addition, the Suns playmaker follows his own workout regimen in the weight room, engineered to enhance his performance on the floor.

“I’m not very explosive,” Nash claimed. “I’m not going to beat too many people in a race, jump over or out-muscle anyone. Instead, I try to use my coordination, balance and momentum to my advantage.”

Nash expects that the training that he undergoes in the weight room translates to results on the court. The All-NBA guard adapted a customized workout routine for his specific goals – one that focuses on the core strength and balance necessary to optimize his game on the court.

Whereas most players take off anywhere between two weeks and a month at the end of the season to allow their bodies to recover, Nash only takes between three and five days off.

“I can’t sit still and since I’m getting older, I don’t want a big hill to climb when I come back,” he said. “And since I like to eat, I don’t want to get fat.”

Trainers say Nash knows his body better than most athletes.
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The two-time MVP claims that he has basically trained the same he did when he was younger, except when he was younger, he played basketball all summer. Now, he doesn’t play until September.

“I really need to take a break mentally from the game,” Nash said. “I just shoot, stay in great cardio-vascular shape and lift so that I can prevent injury.”

Once he feels rested, Nash commences with his summer workout program, which includes a total-body workout three days a week, shooting four or five days a week and playing competitive soccer two times a week. When he lifts, Nash performs a lot of repetitions (15-25 reps), and finishes at fatigue.

His workout is very core-focused, allowing him to preserve his health and his back while increasing his chances of longevity.

At 33 years old, Nash looks to make minimal gains during the offseason and mainly focuses on strengthening his body so he doesn’t break down during the season. With the amount of energy he exerts during the season, he is not as concerned as much with building as he is with maintaining his level of fitness. The key for Nash is to keep training fun and avoid burning out, especially with the prospects of a possible 100-game season looming.

“I could care less if Steve goes from benching 70-pound dumbbells to 45-pound dumbbells," strength and conditioning coach Erik Phillips said. “That wouldn’t help him that much on the court because he’s already great.”

The weight-training philosophy of the Suns training staff is to build the body like a pyramid. The bottom part of the pyramid represents stability, the second block is strength and the third block is power. Nash will remain within the stabilization stage throughout the season and venture into the second and third blocks in the offseason.

“Since I am not as naturally explosive as the other players, weight training helps me become more athletic,” Nash said.

It is hard to argue with the results. The five-time All-Star hasn't missed more than seven games in a season since coming to Phoenix and while most players tire in the fourth quarter, Nash often finds another gear. His ability to accomplish that, all while playing at a frenetic pace, is the reason that he can sustain such a high level of play throughout the season.

So if you want to train like the game's best, take a look at what the two-time MVP does over the summer:

Steve Nash's Summer Workout

******BE ADVISED!!! These exercises should not be performed unless under the supervision of a certified strength and conditioning trainer. Many of these exercises could result in injury if performed incorrectly!! *******

Nash performs an exercise on the Bosu ball.
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Monday

Weight Room: Chest and Back

Sets: 2-3

Reps: 12-20

Time: No rest between exercises, 90 second rest between sets

Exercises: Dumbbell Bench Press on Stability Ball, Bosu Ball Push Up, Split-Stance Cable Fly, Bent over Dumbbell Row (While balancing with Single Leg on Bosu Ball ), Single Leg Dumbbell Cobra (While balancing with Single Leg on Bosu Ball), Roman Extension on Stability Ball (physical therapy-like ball)

Abdominals: Pick four Abdominal/Core Exercises

Cardio: 1 hour Skateboarding/Basketball

Tuesday

Cardio: Skateboarding/Tennis/Basketball

Wednesday

Weight Room: Shoulders

Sets: 2-3

Reps: 12-20

Time: No rest between exercises, 90 second rest between sets

Exercises: Rotator Cuff Exercises on Cable (Flex, Internal Rotation, External Rotation), Shoulder Dumbbell Combo (Scaption, abduction) – 1.) Single-leg Balance on Bosu Ball Dumbbell Overhead Press – 2.) Single-leg Balance on Bosu Ball, Dumbbell Shrug to a Calf Raise, Cable PNF Patterns (type of resistance for stretching and strengthening)

Abdominals: Pick four Abdominal/Core Exercises

Cardio: 1-2 hours of Soccer

Thursday

Cardio: Skateboarding/Tennis/Basketball
Friday

Weight Room: Biceps/Triceps

Sets: 2-3

Reps: 12-20

Time: No rest between exercises, 90 second rest between sets

Exercises: Dumbbell Bicep Curl (Single-leg Balance on Bosu Ball), Preacher Curl (Double-leg Balance on Bosu Ball), Dumbbell Tricep Kickbacks on Stability Ball, Tricep Cable Pulldown

Abdominals: Pick four Abdominal/Core Exercises

Cardio: 1-2 Hours of Soccer
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5/18/2008  7:40 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

David Lee is all alone.

"Go Knicks" - David Lee

The guy just does everything right. Definate keeper.

He's the perfect example of what is so wrong with these Knicks. THEY DON'T WORK HARD FOR A DAMN THING!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/18/2008  7:44 PM
Posted by misterearl:

franco - I would beg to differ on the selflessness of Lee compared to The Mayor.

Chandler has a rare blend of intuitive and intelligent gifts which he employs in the context of team play. His assist totals are better than Lee's, he has excellent court awareness and he has a better handle.

Don't be distracted by the above-average hops

Lee and Chandler are both very good pieces for us. Lee's already proving himself and Chandler. He's showed some signs towards the end of the season. I already see Lee starting next year and I can see Chandler starting in a few more years.
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5/18/2008  7:48 PM
Posted by playa2:
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Once Lee recieves his big payday from NY, then and only then will I judge his attitude for the game.

See you in 2 years. How did you come up with this flawed logic? So all 1st round pick have to wait 5 yrs to be judged while second round picks only 2?

Playing in NYC after getting a big payday from the meager rookie Contract changes your perspective sometimes. So that's what I meant.

You guys act like you have never heard of NBA players going all out working on their game before the big contract and then settling down and being complacent once they get it and have that job security with many zeros behind a number.

playas jealous because a certain someone is showing he can play basketball better than most of these bums. Why don't you go play in traffic.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/18/2008  7:56 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

I have better news

Marbury...

"DOMINATE"

"RUNNIN IN THE MOUNTAINS"

"I RUN THROUGH THE BEST QUALITY TREES"





[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-15-2008 01:01 AM]

I'll never trust this' team again.
Lee to work with Nash in the offseason

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