Posted by Uptown:

Posted by Bippity10:

I'm with Franco and Fishmike on this. I'd have no problem with hiring D'antoni(at a reasonable cost-high cost may affect buyout decisions) as long as the expectations are reasonable. Without proper expectations and support you are looking at another LB situation. With proper patience and the building of a philosophy there is no reason to beleive we can't build a winner with him here. He's already proven he can win. The key is, can he learn from his shortcomings.

What...no love from the Bipster. Does my name have to start with an F

Change your name to Fuptown and then we can talk

[Edited by - bippity10 on 08-05-2008 11:31 AM]

I don't think anyone is saying he is a bad coach. I think that perhaps that people might feel uneasy with giving a large commitment to someone whoose coaching style[get a shot up every 7 seconds and not really honker down on the D] might not mesh well with what we have here. And even if he's brought in here to one day have that style---it is not proven in anyway that he can bring the personell together to do it. I don't know if it is wise to rush into this at this point. This is not Greg Popovich Pat Riley or Phil Jackson. This is a guy who wants to coach a certain way and really had the guys to do it because of an unusual PG. I think some negative posts are more along the lines of think about it.

Ok what is a staggering offer & how does it compare to the cost/value vs. JJ1, JJ2, Marbury etc. In other words, if you have a conviction about a coach, and you're the Knicks, use your only competitive advantage & blow Chicago out of the water. You've pissed money away on guys who either make no impact or a negative impact. Spend your $$ on something that will have a positive impact.

Ok well if D'antoni becomes the coach can't we look at it as Donnie aint playing any games? Can we look at it like he got the right coach to fit his style? Donnie has always picked athletic mofos.....his teams always excelled in the open court. Donnie has also had a nose for picking some tough bastards that can play fast or slow.

So stop the doom and gloom. It doesn't have to be the Layden or Isiah era all over again.

Thinking positively, D'antoni comes in.....implements his style of play which is world class. Donnie works closely with D'antoni and quickly gets the players he needs to sucseed. This off-season could be a big one......we don't know what can happen.

Anyway, D'antoni isn't even signed yet if he even will sign.

Posted by franco12:

I tend think back to when the Knicks brought Riley in - I'm not comparing the level of talent nor do I expect the same kind of near term performance- but if you can get D'Antoni & he is willing to suffer here & has the support of Walsh, then I don't understand how you can't like the move.

But the expectations have to be reasonable and that must be communicated by Walsh- I hope.

GREAT point. Everyone please read this. Before the Knicks Riley was the showtime running Lakers. Had Riley ever coached a drag it out half court team before? I think not.

All I am saying is Mike D has been a great coach. He's won a ton of games, have a > .500 playoff record in what has EASILY been the superior conference and did so with a very small team.

***IF*** he's the coach why not wait and see what kind of system he puts the players in. Why not wait and see what kind of players we have?!?!?

knicks haven't had a free wheeling offense since pitino.

i think d'antoni would be a great hire b/c this time, the gm will get him his players.

BUT with d'antoni comes expectaions...

starphucking can work...if done properly...

Posted by djsunyc:

starphucking can work...if done properly...

Giggity!

Posted by djsunyc:

starphucking can work...if done properly...

This would be classified as a starphucking move and I'm tired of us always being the ones setting the precedent to making them.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by franco12:

I tend think back to when the Knicks brought Riley in - I'm not comparing the level of talent nor do I expect the same kind of near term performance- but if you can get D'Antoni & he is willing to suffer here & has the support of Walsh, then I don't understand how you can't like the move.

But the expectations have to be reasonable and that must be communicated by Walsh- I hope.

GREAT point. Everyone please read this. Before the Knicks Riley was the showtime running Lakers. Had Riley ever coached a drag it out half court team before? I think not.

All I am saying is Mike D has been a great coach. He's won a ton of games, have a > .500 playoff record in what has EASILY been the superior conference and did so with a very small team.

***IF*** he's the coach why not wait and see what kind of system he puts the players in. Why not wait and see what kind of players we have?!?!?

Come on, those Riley teams might have been Showtime but they were always tough defensively. D'Antoni has never stressed defense, especially not the way Riley always has. That's an awful comparison.

You want to compare D'Antoni to another coach? Try another ex-Lakers coach, Paul Westhead and his run and gun offense with no attention to defense. The only difference between Westhead and D'Antoni is that D'Antoni had an MVP caliber PG in Nash and 2 great players in Marion and Stoudemire. That style might work in the regular season but in the playoffs it never wins.

We already know what kind of system he's going to put in. Best case scenario in terms of player acquisition would be an MVP PG, 2 all star forwards, the 6th man of the year and another potential all star G/F. D'Antoni has had all of that and lost in the playoffs

D'Antoni will have the same hollow success that Pitino had here with his run and gun. Most of you will eat it up and ask for more. Some of us will see it for what it is and be disappointed that we're not anywhere near winning a championship. But Dolan and Isiah will be happy.

Man you people amaze me. Think positively? Why? Because Isiah sucked and we have the new guy in here? No. Those days are over. Hiring D'Antoni is a big mistake. He is a one-trick pony. His style is not championship caliber. He does NOT, and let me repeat, does NOT emphasize defense at all and that is a big reason why he is leaving Phoenix. The Bulls are the better fit for him but that doesn't mean it will be a great hire for them either. But you know what? They're in position right now to win more games and it will benefit them more. I don't care about the team we have now. We shouldn't be going with a Suns-style plan. That's not the way you build a successful post-season team. I want this team to go back to playing defense. We don't need another player's coach who doesn't care about defense.