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5/6/2008  10:06 PM
I don't think some people realize just how much of an improvement a "bad" or "average" coach and GM will be here.

D'Antoni, Avery, Jax... they're all tremendous upgrades.
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5/6/2008  10:16 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I think it would be fine for Jackson, so long as he has an experienced coach with Knicks history to assist him. The perfect man is already with the organization - Isiah Thomas.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 05-06-2008 20:42]

The sarcasm should have ended when Isiah was fired.
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5/6/2008  10:25 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I think it would be fine for Jackson, so long as he has an experienced coach with Knicks history to assist him. The perfect man is already with the organization - Isiah Thomas.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 05-06-2008 20:42]

The sarcasm should have ended when Isiah was fired.

Maybe if he were fired, it would have ended.

Actually knowing BJ, probably not.
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5/6/2008  10:58 PM
the more i think about it my choices are

#1 Tom Thib
1b. Mark Jackson
2. avery

so this isnt bad
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5/7/2008  9:10 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Vmart:

We are screwed. Isiah was bad but Jackson is going to be even worse than Isiah as coachyou guys are ok with this. Someone start the fire Walsh web site.

We are not making the playoffs anyway so if you thought Avery or anyone else would make us a good team you are wrong.

You people are nuts every year is a god damn seperate entity. I don't want to lose anymore, and screw this build for the long haul crap that you guys want that process is already underway(we have young players here). Under Isiah the team lacked direction and player didn't respect him. The players the Knicks have are disrespectful to everyone thats just the way they are. But don't come here to tell me the KNicks aren't making the playoffs next year so its ok if Jackson F's around with the team for the next three years until LeBron gets here BS. That just might a huge pipe dream on our parts. You want to instill direction ASAP no matter who the personell is. Mark Jackson does not command the respect of anyone with his coaching credentials the players are gonna laugh in his face, we already have a bunch of clowns on the team. Thats why you have to get a coach in here that commands the respect of the players, a person who knows what he is doing, this is a huge mistake that just threw the organization back 5-6 years.

At what point did anyone say it's okay for Jackson to F around? Does rookie coach imply f'ing around?

I just hope that people will like me
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5/7/2008  9:12 AM
90% of the respect a coach receives comes as a byproduct of how the organization treats him. If the organization treats the coach as the number one priority than the players will be forced to. But once you give the juice card to the players(like we did with Chaney and Lenny and LB) than it doesn't matter how much experience they have, the players will walk all over him.
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5/7/2008  9:17 AM
I think we got the right GM for the job. I think he's far from a guy who is prone to fooling around with a franchise. I think he's had LOADS of time to think about this over the years. Bird was the only thing standing in his way and I think he's been dying to do some things without the resistance from Bird. Now he's back in full control again and I think he'll make solid decisions. If he's picked Mark, I trust that he knows a heck of a lot more about what kind of mind Mark has than most of us do.

In truth right now, the most important work will be done by the GM and not the coach. This team needs to be built better, so that ANY coach will have more success in coaching the team. The better the team, the better the coach looks. That goes for every team in the NBA. Now the great coaches can win you a few more games and have great value in the playoffs, but you still have to give them a good team for them to be successful.

Isiah's biggest problem wasn't just the coaching, but the GM work. The combination is what caused the big failure. The team has some talent but part need to be moved and added to make it a good team. Mark should be able to direct the team during this period and at the same time work out the kinks in his coaching skills. I think Donnie feels Mark is the right coach for the kind of team he wants to build and that's the big key.
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5/7/2008  11:14 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Vmart:

We are screwed. Isiah was bad but Jackson is going to be even worse than Isiah as coachyou guys are ok with this. Someone start the fire Walsh web site.

Why is Jackson so bad? Give some examples.

That's a curious question because we don't know how good or bad a coach he'll be, since he's never coached before. I'm optimistic since he's intelligent and seems to understand the game, but I won't feel confident until I see how the team that he's coaching looks on the court.
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5/7/2008  11:22 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by djsunyc:

looks like walsh also values the 2009 draft...

As well he should. I'd be disappointed if they won more than 23 games next year.

What if we won 70 and won the championship?
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5/7/2008  11:24 AM
Mark Jackson had a great understanding of the game and running offenses as a player. Hopefully that will translate into his coaching. Obviously it didn't with Isiah but I still think it's good for the coach to have understood the game very well as a player.
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5/7/2008  5:09 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I think it would be fine for Jackson, so long as he has an experienced coach with Knicks history to assist him. The perfect man is already with the organization - Isiah Thomas.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 05-06-2008 20:42]

The sarcasm should have ended when Isiah was fired.

Maybe if he were fired, it would have ended.

Actually knowing BJ, probably not.

So now we can never be sarcastic again?

That could mean the end of my valuable contribution to this board.
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5/7/2008  5:11 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah's biggest problem wasn't just the coaching, but the GM work. The combination is what caused the big failure.

I agree. He wasn't just a bad coach, he was also a terrible GM. And the combination was awful.

Other than that, though, I think he did a great job.
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5/7/2008  5:43 PM
If Mark Jackson is not competent and an upgrade Donnie Walsh will not hire him. If you think that Walsh is not smart enough to make a good hire at that position then he shouldn't be in the front office. My guess is Walsh knows a bit about what it takes to be a successful coach in the NBA.
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Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Vmart:

We are screwed. Isiah was bad but Jackson is going to be even worse than Isiah as coachyou guys are ok with this. Someone start the fire Walsh web site.

We are not making the playoffs anyway so if you thought Avery or anyone else would make us a good team you are wrong.

You people are nuts every year is a god damn seperate entity. I don't want to lose anymore, and screw this build for the long haul crap that you guys want that process is already underway(we have young players here). Under Isiah the team lacked direction and player didn't respect him. The players the Knicks have are disrespectful to everyone thats just the way they are. But don't come here to tell me the KNicks aren't making the playoffs next year so its ok if Jackson F's around with the team for the next three years until LeBron gets here BS. That just might a huge pipe dream on our parts. You want to instill direction ASAP no matter who the personell is. Mark Jackson does not command the respect of anyone with his coaching credentials the players are gonna laugh in his face, we already have a bunch of clowns on the team. Thats why you have to get a coach in here that commands the respect of the players, a person who knows what he is doing, this is a huge mistake that just threw the organization back 5-6 years.

At what point did anyone say it's okay for Jackson to F around? Does rookie coach imply f'ing around?

Hiring Jackson is like hiring a man who has a blank sheet for a resume. In my opionion if this happens then it is a BS hiring in my eyes hiring him is like F'ing around with the future of the knicks. I want someone in here that has experience someone who has made young players better someone who has made young players grow in the right direction as a coach. As of right now Mark Jackson has shown nothing in that Dept why because he hasn't done the time necessary as an assistant. You make a case for Ewing that this guy has improved the play of Yoa Ming and Dwight Howard. Atleast Pat Ewing has atleast prepared a game plan for his teams opponents, Jackson hasn't even done that if that isn't F'ing around then I don't know what to call it.

People are talking about how Bird was hired and he had no experience well people here forget that Bird was taking over a team that was consistently in the playoffs and wasn't to far removed from just playing in the ECF. There is a difference in that the Knicks are not in the same situation as the Pacers were. Right now if you ask me is the time for experience rather than hiring a fresh face without experience.
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5/7/2008  8:32 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Vmart:

We are screwed. Isiah was bad but Jackson is going to be even worse than Isiah as coachyou guys are ok with this. Someone start the fire Walsh web site.

We are not making the playoffs anyway so if you thought Avery or anyone else would make us a good team you are wrong.

You people are nuts every year is a god damn seperate entity. I don't want to lose anymore, and screw this build for the long haul crap that you guys want that process is already underway(we have young players here). Under Isiah the team lacked direction and player didn't respect him. The players the Knicks have are disrespectful to everyone thats just the way they are. But don't come here to tell me the KNicks aren't making the playoffs next year so its ok if Jackson F's around with the team for the next three years until LeBron gets here BS. That just might a huge pipe dream on our parts. You want to instill direction ASAP no matter who the personell is. Mark Jackson does not command the respect of anyone with his coaching credentials the players are gonna laugh in his face, we already have a bunch of clowns on the team. Thats why you have to get a coach in here that commands the respect of the players, a person who knows what he is doing, this is a huge mistake that just threw the organization back 5-6 years.

At what point did anyone say it's okay for Jackson to F around? Does rookie coach imply f'ing around?

Hiring Jackson is like hiring a man who has a blank sheet for a resume. In my opionion if this happens then it is a BS hiring in my eyes hiring him is like F'ing around with the future of the knicks. I want someone in here that has experience someone who has made young players better someone who has made young players grow in the right direction as a coach. As of right now Mark Jackson has shown nothing in that Dept why because he hasn't done the time necessary as an assistant. You make a case for Ewing that this guy has improved the play of Yoa Ming and Dwight Howard. Atleast Pat Ewing has atleast prepared a game plan for his teams opponents, Jackson hasn't even done that if that isn't F'ing around then I don't know what to call it.

People are talking about how Bird was hired and he had no experience well people here forget that Bird was taking over a team that was consistently in the playoffs and wasn't to far removed from just playing in the ECF. There is a difference in that the Knicks are not in the same situation as the Pacers were. Right now if you ask me is the time for experience rather than hiring a fresh face without experience.

I am with you on preferring ewing to jackson- but we need a coach our GM can work with- If walsh feels that his team should include jackson - its his call.

If jackson doesn't work out- sorry to disagree with you, but there is no chance this team turns in anything more than a mid thirty win season- and that is a simple fact of reality.
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5/7/2008  8:49 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Vmart:

We are screwed. Isiah was bad but Jackson is going to be even worse than Isiah as coachyou guys are ok with this. Someone start the fire Walsh web site.

We are not making the playoffs anyway so if you thought Avery or anyone else would make us a good team you are wrong.

You people are nuts every year is a god damn seperate entity. I don't want to lose anymore, and screw this build for the long haul crap that you guys want that process is already underway(we have young players here). Under Isiah the team lacked direction and player didn't respect him. The players the Knicks have are disrespectful to everyone thats just the way they are. But don't come here to tell me the KNicks aren't making the playoffs next year so its ok if Jackson F's around with the team for the next three years until LeBron gets here BS. That just might a huge pipe dream on our parts. You want to instill direction ASAP no matter who the personell is. Mark Jackson does not command the respect of anyone with his coaching credentials the players are gonna laugh in his face, we already have a bunch of clowns on the team. Thats why you have to get a coach in here that commands the respect of the players, a person who knows what he is doing, this is a huge mistake that just threw the organization back 5-6 years.

At what point did anyone say it's okay for Jackson to F around? Does rookie coach imply f'ing around?

Hiring Jackson is like hiring a man who has a blank sheet for a resume. In my opionion if this happens then it is a BS hiring in my eyes hiring him is like F'ing around with the future of the knicks. I want someone in here that has experience someone who has made young players better someone who has made young players grow in the right direction as a coach. As of right now Mark Jackson has shown nothing in that Dept why because he hasn't done the time necessary as an assistant. You make a case for Ewing that this guy has improved the play of Yoa Ming and Dwight Howard. Atleast Pat Ewing has atleast prepared a game plan for his teams opponents, Jackson hasn't even done that if that isn't F'ing around then I don't know what to call it.

People are talking about how Bird was hired and he had no experience well people here forget that Bird was taking over a team that was consistently in the playoffs and wasn't to far removed from just playing in the ECF. There is a difference in that the Knicks are not in the same situation as the Pacers were. Right now if you ask me is the time for experience rather than hiring a fresh face without experience.

Niether Avery Johnson nor D Antoni is turning this horrid roster around. I see no problem with Walsh bringing in Jackson to learn on the job while he sorts out this mess of a roster.

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5/10/2008  6:01 PM
They'll be no jax thank you very much!!!!!!!!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/10/2008  6:24 PM
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