Posted by bitty41:

DLee does fill a need. Question is if we trade him do we fill another, more glaring need (PG, real center) or do we trade him for someone who will be an upgrade but not pg or center.

Umm yea thats what I was talking about the more glaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaring needs *ahem* point guard, shooting guard, small forward, shot-block center. Not too picky anyone of those would be great to have come next season just saying.

are we in a position to make that gamble?

Hahaha this statement suggests that we actually have something to lose but umm the Knicks haven't won more then 40 games in awhile so I think its safe to say thats there's really not much of rock bottom that this team has not discovered.

Thats exactly my point, we are really in a crappy position here and we don't even have much assets that we can trade with in order to improve. When a team is in half way decent shape and they trade a proven guy for a pick thats understandable gamble since they got somewhat of a team with other assets to use in case the pick goesn't work out the way they expected.

Our position , from my perspective, is such as we got 1 definate guy that we can use as a trading chip for sure. There are others of lesser value but DLee we can use in just about any trade scenario(unless we are talkin about trading for a franchise player, then prolly not) So out of all the options, the one that sticks out as the most cruicial atm is improving cap space situation since thats probably the hardest thing to accomplish for us by 2010. If we can do that AND add a pick, oh boy, thats just dandy. But if we trade Lee and don't improve cap space nor bring in a franchise player then we'll really set ourselves back even farther. If we trade him for a pick and the pick is a bust well you get the point. .

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

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Posted by bitty41:

Wait what is the point of listing the Roy, Foye, Aldridge draft>? You compare that to Lee's own draft class with Deron Williams, Danny Granger, Chris Paul, Marvin Willams, Andrew Bogut, Klieza. Look some drafts are crappy, some are okay, and some are great. David Lee isn't some superstar he is average player on a very bad team so this organization would be foolish not to listen to every offer that comes their way. If you could move David Lee along with one of our crappy contracts for a mid first rounder and a shorter contract I say do it.

I agree and Zach is the first one of the crappy contracts I'd look to move. It's a shame that we have to lose a nice young player like Lee just to get rid of Zach or Eddy.

Who cares at this point this team clearly needs to go back to the drawing board. So I could care less if no one from this roster remains.

Whether it turned out as a solid 6th man or a starter, Lee would have been a very nice player to keep in the long-term picture had it not been for Zach and Eddy. The team needs to start all over but if they get rid of Lee they'll just have more needs to address: Good rebounding and hustle and excellent efficiency on offense. It just sets the rebuilding back a little further.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-14-2008 11:10 AM]

If they want to keep Lee they have to get rid of atleast Randolph and probably Curry. I think it will be much easier said than done. Also the minute we give up Curry--we dont have a substitute and our big men are 6-9/6-8--although Curry has not hsown the ability to guard protect the basket.

Im in the camp that says we need a complete rebuild and do what we can to save cap space. By keeping Lee[we cant take it as a certain that we will be able to trade Randolp Curry etc.. for ending contracts] we will be forced to pay him 8-9 mm per year which will just about shut us out for FA the year LBJ is available. If we can go into the draft and get a top 8-9 pick and perhaps dump a Q Rich along with Lee for the pick+ending contract and take a C or long athletic PF it could very well be in our best long term interests. David Lee has been agood player but has had zero effect on W-L---all of our players with the exception of Chandler right now IMHO are trade bait.

BRIGGS, that's a wide departure from what you were saying not too long ago on these forums... i thought u were of the camp that said we did NOT need a complete rebuild & that there were some salvageable pieces on this roster that could be implemented in the rebuild to come? or am i wrong on this?