Posted by jaydh:

Posted by prodson:

20 points a game and he is giving up 20 points to the plkayer he is defending.

spree wasnt exactly defending well either.

Posted by knixphan:

Rather than spewing, will one of you POST the hard facts from last season?

H20's scoring - vs - points allowed by opponent

And same for Spree.

Let's talk facts. Not biases. Cause we all know that the SpreeLovers will be SpreeLovers and the HoustonLovers will remain as well.

For us KnickLovers, I want to see the stats. How much did Houston allow last season?

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

You knick fans should take note that Houston has improved every facet of his game last season. Formerly knowned to be soft, Houston has changed that dramatically. If you recall, Don Chaney was the one who selected Houston in the draft during the Piston yrs. Now, Houston is playing for Chaney and has escalated his game to the next level. You H20 haters complained "how is houston gonna defend the kobes,iversons,mcgradys and the ray allens but ask yourself the ? in reverse. How are they gonna stop H20??? Well, Houston scored over 50 vs kobe and Ray Allen this past season and over 30 vs McGrady. If were watching Knick games last yr, you would've seen Allan exploring all sought of nifty moves against his opponent, whether he's demonstating one on one isolations, pump fake jump shots, 1st quick steps blowing by his opponents and studder moves to the basket, Allan has changed his game tremendously. Part of it has to be, playing for Chaney. Allan has also improved on his defense as well. People need to stop bashing Allan and watch the games. We know he didn't deserve 100mm contract but thats not his fault, it was MGmt. Right now, Allan's game has escalated and Spree's has declined.

Dude let me know when you're done doing Allan's laundry. I've got a few loads I need you to do. Extra Fabic Softener please.


[Edited by - nwny on 07/23/2003 16:21:45]

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This season will show us what Allan is (or is not) really made of. Like Necrom stated earlier, he no longer has Spree to lean on.

He had better have a career year, or the Garden will become the TerrorDome for "franchise money" makin' Allan. Since that cat is far from a robust personality, I can see him cracking under the pressure, the media slander and most of all, the BOOS echoing thoughout the Garden.

Please, allan didn't lean on Spree. He held it on his own. Didn't need no one to lean on. Now that there are no duplicate guards in the starting lineup, allan should blossomed even more. He won't crack under pressure. Against milwaukee when he scored the last pts which was a 50,the fans gave him a standing ovation as though the old Allan is forgotten and love the new one....

Posted by knicksbb10:

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

You knick fans should take note that Houston has improved every facet of his game last season. Formerly knowned to be soft, Houston has changed that dramatically. If you recall, Don Chaney was the one who selected Houston in the draft during the Piston yrs. Now, Houston is playing for Chaney and has escalated his game to the next level. You H20 haters complained "how is houston gonna defend the kobes,iversons,mcgradys and the ray allens but ask yourself the ? in reverse. How are they gonna stop H20??? Well, Houston scored over 50 vs kobe and Ray Allen this past season and over 30 vs McGrady. If were watching Knick games last yr, you would've seen Allan exploring all sought of nifty moves against his opponent, whether he's demonstating one on one isolations, pump fake jump shots, 1st quick steps blowing by his opponents and studder moves to the basket, Allan has changed his game tremendously. Part of it has to be, playing for Chaney. Allan has also improved on his defense as well. People need to stop bashing Allan and watch the games. We know he didn't deserve 100mm contract but thats not his fault, it was MGmt. Right now, Allan's game has escalated and Spree's has declined.

Dude let me know when you're done doing Allan's laundry. I've got a few loads I need you to do. Extra Fabic Softener please.


[Edited by - nwny on 07/23/2003 16:21:45]

awny, you need to stop drinking that Haterade and wake up. I think you haven't been watching too many knick games last season but Allan did improved tremendously.. Part of the reason is maturity and incorporating his game under Don Chaney's system. Bro, FACTS DON'T LIE... Look at his statistics where pretty much every cateorgory had improved.(rebounding,assist,steals,pts,free throws,and etc.) he also took more of a role as captain by being more vocal. I'm not trying to kiss up to H20. You and alot of knick fans need to realize the truth. Stop using his contract as an excuse for crucifying him, blame that om mgmt. Allan is one of the premier shootin guards in the NBA.. Vs San Antonio in texas back on 3/18, Houston scored 16pts in the 4th quarter and torched S.A. for 36pts in the game. WHat tells you that Houston have growned is the defensive assignment held by Bruce Bowen who couldn't check H20 and got lid up throughout the game. Now, we all know Bruce Bowen, a defensive specialist whose knowned for shutting people down. Well, he even said Allan has added a flock of moves and is more dangerous at this stage of his career..
STOP HATIN ON H20!!!!!!!

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

You knick fans should take note that Houston has improved every facet of his game last season. Formerly knowned to be soft, Houston has changed that dramatically. If you recall, Don Chaney was the one who selected Houston in the draft during the Piston yrs. Now, Houston is playing for Chaney and has escalated his game to the next level. You H20 haters complained "how is houston gonna defend the kobes,iversons,mcgradys and the ray allens but ask yourself the ? in reverse. How are they gonna stop H20??? Well, Houston scored over 50 vs kobe and Ray Allen this past season and over 30 vs McGrady. If were watching Knick games last yr, you would've seen Allan exploring all sought of nifty moves against his opponent, whether he's demonstating one on one isolations, pump fake jump shots, 1st quick steps blowing by his opponents and studder moves to the basket, Allan has changed his game tremendously. Part of it has to be, playing for Chaney. Allan has also improved on his defense as well. People need to stop bashing Allan and watch the games. We know he didn't deserve 100mm contract but thats not his fault, it was MGmt. Right now, Allan's game has escalated and Spree's has declined.

Dude let me know when you're done doing Allan's laundry. I've got a few loads I need you to do. Extra Fabic Softener please.


[Edited by - nwny on 07/23/2003 16:21:45]

awny, you need to stop drinking that Haterade and wake up. I think you haven't been watching too many knick games last season but Allan did improved tremendously.. Part of the reason is maturity and incorporating his game under Don Chaney's system. Bro, FACTS DON'T LIE... Look at his statistics where pretty much every cateorgory had improved.(rebounding,assist,steals,pts,free throws,and etc.) he also took more of a role as captain by being more vocal. I'm not trying to kiss up to H20. You and alot of knick fans need to realize the truth. Stop using his contract as an excuse for crucifying him, blame that om mgmt. Allan is one of the premier shootin guards in the NBA.. Vs San Antonio in texas back on 3/18, Houston scored 16pts in the 4th quarter and torched S.A. for 36pts in the game. WHat tells you that Houston have growned is the defensive assignment held by Bruce Bowen who couldn't check H20 and got lid up throughout the game. Now, we all know Bruce Bowen, a defensive specialist whose knowned for shutting people down. Well, he even said Allan has added a flock of moves and is more dangerous at this stage of his career..
STOP HATIN ON H20!!!!!!!

Sure he improved his game. But his game was so weak it had no where to go but up. He's a jump shooter, that can't defend. Jump shooters are a dime dozen. Please.

Posted by knicksbb10:

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

Posted by nwny:

Posted by knicksbb10:

You knick fans should take note that Houston has improved every facet of his game last season. Formerly knowned to be soft, Houston has changed that dramatically. If you recall, Don Chaney was the one who selected Houston in the draft during the Piston yrs. Now, Houston is playing for Chaney and has escalated his game to the next level. You H20 haters complained "how is houston gonna defend the kobes,iversons,mcgradys and the ray allens but ask yourself the ? in reverse. How are they gonna stop H20??? Well, Houston scored over 50 vs kobe and Ray Allen this past season and over 30 vs McGrady. If were watching Knick games last yr, you would've seen Allan exploring all sought of nifty moves against his opponent, whether he's demonstating one on one isolations, pump fake jump shots, 1st quick steps blowing by his opponents and studder moves to the basket, Allan has changed his game tremendously. Part of it has to be, playing for Chaney. Allan has also improved on his defense as well. People need to stop bashing Allan and watch the games. We know he didn't deserve 100mm contract but thats not his fault, it was MGmt. Right now, Allan's game has escalated and Spree's has declined.

Dude let me know when you're done doing Allan's laundry. I've got a few loads I need you to do. Extra Fabic Softener please.


[Edited by - nwny on 07/23/2003 16:21:45]

awny, you need to stop drinking that Haterade and wake up. I think you haven't been watching too many knick games last season but Allan did improved tremendously.. Part of the reason is maturity and incorporating his game under Don Chaney's system. Bro, FACTS DON'T LIE... Look at his statistics where pretty much every cateorgory had improved.(rebounding,assist,steals,pts,free throws,and etc.) he also took more of a role as captain by being more vocal. I'm not trying to kiss up to H20. You and alot of knick fans need to realize the truth. Stop using his contract as an excuse for crucifying him, blame that om mgmt. Allan is one of the premier shootin guards in the NBA.. Vs San Antonio in texas back on 3/18, Houston scored 16pts in the 4th quarter and torched S.A. for 36pts in the game. WHat tells you that Houston have growned is the defensive assignment held by Bruce Bowen who couldn't check H20 and got lid up throughout the game. Now, we all know Bruce Bowen, a defensive specialist whose knowned for shutting people down. Well, he even said Allan has added a flock of moves and is more dangerous at this stage of his career..
STOP HATIN ON H20!!!!!!!

Sure he improved his game. But his game was so weak it had no where to go but up. He's a jump shooter, that can't defend. Jump shooters are a dime dozen. Please.

WHat you're showing for H20 is beyond HATRED!!!!!