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2/10/2008  3:33 PM
Posted by bitty41:

TMS,

You won I'm dumb I have terrible ideas about the Knicks whatever I don't care.

Look I'll say it again you and I will never see eye to eye about rebuilding the Knicks. So why get yourself all worked up about it who cares what I think if you disagree with it. Eventually we'll see how this thing plays out and what ultimately will turn this franchise around.

Down the road you may look like a genius and I may look like a complete fool but I don't really care either way. As long as the Knicks can turn this thing around whether Zach, Lee, Balkman, Curry are involed or not it makes no difference to me as long as the Knicks start winning.

Finally I think you get entirely too sensitive about this stuff if I don't agree with fine. Accept it already I know you despise Zach more then anything else in this world but I have absolutely no desire in trying to change your opinion.

Also more and more I'm disliking your posts and not because of your opinions but your constant force-feeding and demand of agreement.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 02-10-2008 3:31 PM]


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2/10/2008  3:34 PM
bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

& for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-10-2008 12:38 PM]
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2/10/2008  4:05 PM
bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

See this is what I mean about about crazyness this would be a perfect opportunity for me to engage in yet another 10 post arguement about what you really said and what you really meant when you said it. I misrepresented your comments should I sign something at this point stipulating to it geez.
for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

Look if it hurts your feelings or whatever I'm sorry but my intent was not to make you upset or feel insulted or whatever.
for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

This I'll have to disagree with you on. When someone disagrees with you then its "you need to learn how to read", "you put words into my mouth" or "you have flawed logic" and yet you accuse me of making snide comments. The fact that we are even having this type of discussion is utterly ridiculous and tells me that maybe we shouldn't have this type of conversation. But I'm cool debating you or not
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2/10/2008  4:16 PM
sorry, but no... when someone disagrees w/me it's "why do u disagree?"... when someone says i said something i didn't say, it's "you need to learn how to read" & the rest of what u just said... & i make the snide comments to whoever initiates it, so u can stop w/the innocent act here... go back & read up on what you posted & tell me i'm not within my rights to throw catty comments in your direction.

this is what i can't stand about u... u make these little snits to other people that don't agree with you, insult their intelligence, speak to them in a condescending manner & then pretend to be shocked when u get it thrown back in your face... seriously bitty i think ur a cool girl & loved playing ball with you, but ur complete lack of respect for anyone who criticizes your favorite player for very justifiable reasons & then over exaggerations & misrepresentations of their comments makes posting with you the complete opposite... whether u wanna debate with me or not, i'm gonna respond to u if i don't agree w/something just like i do w/anyone else around here.
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2/10/2008  6:39 PM
TMS,



Some things in life just aren't worth arguing

[Edited by - bitty41 on 02-10-2008 6:40 PM]
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2/10/2008  6:57 PM
yeah, poor innocent bitty... always the victim, never the antagonizer.

don't start no static & there won't be no static.. simple... save the patronizing... u know i ain't the type to back down from any argument.
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2/10/2008  7:18 PM
Posted by bitty41:

I'm not a bro first off secondly after all this mess all we can offer up for the hopes of our future is Balkman and Lee we must live in a very twisted world if we think thats a good starting point. I know you guys are big fans of guys making less then 5 million but if your trying to be a good team in this league your going to need to bring more to the table then a role player and a bench player.


So its not exactly ideal for a franchise starting point.

If you are a guy, I refer to you as bro....

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2/10/2008  7:23 PM
Posted by TMS:

yeah, poor innocent bitty... always the victim, never the antagonizer.

don't start no static & there won't be no static.. simple... save the patronizing... u know i ain't the type to back down from any argument.

I've apolgized for misrepresenting your opinions. I even said that maybe we should just leave things but nope; you still to need to have the last word. What are you looking to achieve with your incessant aruging over absolutely nothing?
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2/10/2008  7:23 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by bitty41:

I'm not a bro first off secondly after all this mess all we can offer up for the hopes of our future is Balkman and Lee we must live in a very twisted world if we think thats a good starting point. I know you guys are big fans of guys making less then 5 million but if your trying to be a good team in this league your going to need to bring more to the table then a role player and a bench player.


So its not exactly ideal for a franchise starting point.

If you are a guy, I refer to you as bro....

I'm not a guy why I know that like 99.9% of people on here are men but I just thought I would point that out. But if I was a guy I would totally refer to other guys as bro

[Edited by - bitty41 on 02-10-2008 7:28 PM]
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2/10/2008  7:32 PM
Posted by TMS:

bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

& for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-10-2008 12:38 PM]

Yea, I agree, bitty doesn't get it, so he goes the cop out route by saying he is dumb, and you are sensitive. That is a typical cop out, but he is the one who twisted what we said about wanting lee and balkman to be the foundation of a team and called it sad.

The key here and it is not hard to understand. Somewhere down the road, you are going to need players like lee and balkman to surround franchise players with. We have them now, why should we get rid of them in some (lee and balkman) in a salary dump. I rather let some of these contracts die, draft smart and keep lee and balkman. I am just tired of going the zach randolph route, those types of trades have killed us for years. Again, zach may be a good guy and he sure puts up good numbers, but to me , he is a selfish, black hole, who passes only out of need. This guy is a stat padder, but hey, if that is whatsome people want for the knicks, then they need not complain about 24 win seasons..
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2/10/2008  7:42 PM
y'all need to chill about bitty...that girl is gangsta...i hung out with her once...and this is what happened...

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2/10/2008  7:50 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:

bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

& for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-10-2008 12:38 PM]

Yea, I agree, bitty doesn't get it, so he goes the cop out route by saying he is dumb, and you are sensitive. That is a typical cop out, but he is the one who twisted what we said about wanting lee and balkman to be the foundation of a team and called it sad.

The key here and it is not hard to understand. Somewhere down the road, you are going to need players like lee and balkman to surround franchise players with. We have them now, why should we get rid of them in some (lee and balkman) in a salary dump. I rather let some of these contracts die, draft smart and keep lee and balkman. I am just tired of going the zach randolph route, those types of trades have killed us for years. Again, zach may be a good guy and he sure puts up good numbers, but to me , he is a selfish, black hole, who passes only out of need. This guy is a stat padder, but hey, if that is whatsome people want for the knicks, then they need not complain about 24 win seasons..

Of course you don't understand b/c you guys have spent this entire thread patting each other on the back remarking how smart and brilliant your scenarios are. If we followed yours and TMS blue-print we are talking about an Altanta Hawks situation which I'm not interested in. So maybe by the year 2011 maybe we are a legit playoff team not NBA title contender but just making the playoffs team.

Its like you guys have these talking points and you say them over and over again. Zach is a blackhole, has questionable character, he is destroying our salary cap, he's hurt the development of our young players. Put the blame where it belongs thats all I ask.
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2/10/2008  11:21 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:

bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

& for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-10-2008 12:38 PM]

Yea, I agree, bitty doesn't get it, so he goes the cop out route by saying he is dumb, and you are sensitive. That is a typical cop out, but he is the one who twisted what we said about wanting lee and balkman to be the foundation of a team and called it sad.

The key here and it is not hard to understand. Somewhere down the road, you are going to need players like lee and balkman to surround franchise players with. We have them now, why should we get rid of them in some (lee and balkman) in a salary dump. I rather let some of these contracts die, draft smart and keep lee and balkman. I am just tired of going the zach randolph route, those types of trades have killed us for years. Again, zach may be a good guy and he sure puts up good numbers, but to me , he is a selfish, black hole, who passes only out of need. This guy is a stat padder, but hey, if that is whatsome people want for the knicks, then they need not complain about 24 win seasons..

Of course you don't understand b/c you guys have spent this entire thread patting each other on the back remarking how smart and brilliant your scenarios are. If we followed yours and TMS blue-print we are talking about an Altanta Hawks situation which I'm not interested in. So maybe by the year 2011 maybe we are a legit playoff team not NBA title contender but just making the playoffs team.

Its like you guys have these talking points and you say them over and over again. Zach is a blackhole, has questionable character, he is destroying our salary cap, he's hurt the development of our young players. Put the blame where it belongs thats all I ask.


Right now I would take the hawks roster, salary cap sitiuation, and record over the knicks.... I agree, in the end, we are all knicks fans, and want whats best for the knicks, that is cool, no need to argue, but... I will say this, our TMS-scenario is one that will cut the repeated mistakes out and end the cycle of quick fixes and overpaid malcontent players. We are just saying, lets give guys like lee and balkman, who by the way are probably the two hardest working and most effective players on this team(when given minutes), and surround them with similar hardworking but more talented players to lead these guys... Listen sometimes you have to put yourself in position for good things to happen. under this regime, we have been rolling the dice on high risk, high cost moves, guys like Dice, Curry, francis and now zach to some extent(he didn't cost much talent wise). All I am saying is lets see if we finish in top a 3 lottery spot, I mean damn, this is another year of sucking and this time we own our pick, so in a few months when we are putting that knicks hat on derrick rose, or Thabeet or beasley, we can start to change things for the better. hell if rose comes in and is the player that most think he will be,just imagine him running the floor with balkman, and lee and nate, I am not saying this is a 50 win team, but damn it is a start, a chance at a franchise type player. Don't you think guys like lee and balk would look great with a nash, or a paul? could you imagine that? well rose has a chance to be that special, and if we just by being patient and letting this season take it's course, we have a chance at seeing that in NY.. and guess what, if we get a top 3 pick and the crop of players don't look to appealing, then just think of the trade value it will have... possibilities man, put yourself in the best position to make something good happen..... not to get fleeced in these steve francis, eddy curry and zach type of cap killing deals!


[Edited by - tkf on 10-02-2008 11:22 PM]
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2/11/2008  2:38 AM
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2/11/2008  2:42 AM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:

bitty, really i could care less what people think about my posts, just don't tell me i said something when i haven't... to me, that's the most annoying type of poster here.

& for u to call me overly sensitive when u take each & every opportunity to crack a cheap shot directed my way is pretty laughable... if u don't want me to get worked up, keep ur little snit comments to yourself & talk basketball, bottomline... otherwise ur gonna get just as bad as u wanna give from me... sorry, but that's how i roll.

for u to say i demand agreement from people is also pretty ridiculous... i respect anyone's opinions whether they agree with me or not unless they don't show me respect for mine... explaining my viewpoint when someone insults it like u've been doing for the past few weeks is something i'm gonna do... if u can't handle it tough titties.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-10-2008 12:38 PM]

Yea, I agree, bitty doesn't get it, so he goes the cop out route by saying he is dumb, and you are sensitive. That is a typical cop out, but he is the one who twisted what we said about wanting lee and balkman to be the foundation of a team and called it sad.

The key here and it is not hard to understand. Somewhere down the road, you are going to need players like lee and balkman to surround franchise players with. We have them now, why should we get rid of them in some (lee and balkman) in a salary dump. I rather let some of these contracts die, draft smart and keep lee and balkman. I am just tired of going the zach randolph route, those types of trades have killed us for years. Again, zach may be a good guy and he sure puts up good numbers, but to me , he is a selfish, black hole, who passes only out of need. This guy is a stat padder, but hey, if that is whatsome people want for the knicks, then they need not complain about 24 win seasons..

Of course you don't understand b/c you guys have spent this entire thread patting each other on the back remarking how smart and brilliant your scenarios are. If we followed yours and TMS blue-print we are talking about an Altanta Hawks situation which I'm not interested in. So maybe by the year 2011 maybe we are a legit playoff team not NBA title contender but just making the playoffs team.

Its like you guys have these talking points and you say them over and over again. Zach is a blackhole, has questionable character, he is destroying our salary cap, he's hurt the development of our young players. Put the blame where it belongs thats all I ask.

so it's not OK to express my agreement w/tkf if our views are similar? is anyone here ganging up on you? keep ur anger focused on me if u like, but tkf hasn't been antagonistic to you in the least.

whatever, u think my views are retarded... the feeling's mutual... u said u wanna squash it, let's squash it.
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