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1/21/2008  12:54 PM
mister earl, you are a bigger loser than Isiah.
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1/21/2008  1:01 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:

kam, if there's anyone that deserves to be attacked, it's earl... he's the master of throwing out the sarcastic condescending innuendo & then feigning innocence when people take offense to it.

Aside from the title of this thread, which is not really an attack on anyone, where has he attacked anyone in this thread to get such a response from Cosmic? I just see Earl being attacked. Earl used to post on anopther forum with me and never had a problem with anyone. I think everyone here latches onto positive people (earl, papbear, etc..) and then try to tear them down all the time.

Yes, misterearl is a victim. Just like Isiah.
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1/21/2008  1:05 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

All I know is I haven't seen you post around here since the bottom fell out of the Knicks franchise... this really has nothing to do with fandom, but rather not manning up to past assertions on this forum-community. At the same time, this situation is ridiculous from both sides. This showdown was inevitable and both sides likely prepared for a flame war. Just drop it, sheesh.

The problem is that while the majority of us have discussed the Knicks on a daily basis win or lose - several posters weren't around while we were getting our heads kicked in. Then when we finally hit our second good stretch of games they don't just show up and talk about how it was good the Knicks won and why they won - they instead attack those of us who feel the team isn't very good, regardless of a win streak, and that it would still be in our best interests to go in a different direction.

Then the war starts. It's funny how the select few take it personal when others don't agree with them - to the point that they become embarrassed and leave as if they've actually been shamed in real life because their opinion on the team did not pan out - only to seek revenge when if only in a small moment in time their opinion on the team seems to make sense - and they come attacking others in an attempt to vindicate themselves.

It's quite petty but that's how Knick MBs work apparently.


true cosmic, but then you have some like myself and a few others, who are here, good and bad. who only cares about seeing good basketball and appreciating wins when we get them.. the problem is, those who are here rooting for loses and tanking, take cheap shot at those who like it when the knicks occasionally win and call them, us, flip floppers, accepting mediocrity, the typical BS.. I think that is where a lot of the problems start.... If you want the knicks to lose, then good, but don't piss on others who occasionally enjoy a knicks win.....


[Edited by - tkf on 21-01-2008 12:58 PM]

This is a little in accurate. Those who want losses will comment possibly on how wins at this point piss them off. Then you'll have the DIE HARD come here and say "HOW CAN ANYONE ROOT FOR THEIR TEAM TO LOSE". Then when the team wins the DIE HARDS come here and gloat and say Ha Ha "HATERS SOUR OVER THIS WIN WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN". The Hater will then question how such Fanfare rooting for wins when all the odds suggest losses would do more good than wins for the team's future and the DIE HARD can't come up with any better rationale other than the fact wins provides them with a Knicks fix.

A perfect example was the Back-to-Back excuse disgust by the Haters against I SAY UGH only for the DIE HARD LOVERS to come back and Flip That Ish when a couple wins of ours came in the wake of a team's Back-to-Back situation.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 12:06 PM]
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1/21/2008  1:12 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:

kam, if there's anyone that deserves to be attacked, it's earl... he's the master of throwing out the sarcastic condescending innuendo & then feigning innocence when people take offense to it.

Aside from the title of this thread, which is not really an attack on anyone, where has he attacked anyone in this thread to get such a response from Cosmic? I just see Earl being attacked. Earl used to post on anopther forum with me and never had a problem with anyone. I think everyone here latches onto positive people (earl, papbear, etc..) and then try to tear them down all the time.

it's not this thread bro... come on, u've been around here long enough to know what i'm talking about... the only people that get torn down are those that enjoy doing the same to others who don't share in their point of view... u noticed posters like VDesai, newyorknewyork, etc. don't get any flack from people because they respect the opinions of everyone no matter what side they take... earl is definitely not in their class... not even close.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-21-2008 10:14 AM]
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1/21/2008  1:38 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

All I know is I haven't seen you post around here since the bottom fell out of the Knicks franchise... this really has nothing to do with fandom, but rather not manning up to past assertions on this forum-community. At the same time, this situation is ridiculous from both sides. This showdown was inevitable and both sides likely prepared for a flame war. Just drop it, sheesh.

The problem is that while the majority of us have discussed the Knicks on a daily basis win or lose - several posters weren't around while we were getting our heads kicked in. Then when we finally hit our second good stretch of games they don't just show up and talk about how it was good the Knicks won and why they won - they instead attack those of us who feel the team isn't very good, regardless of a win streak, and that it would still be in our best interests to go in a different direction.

Then the war starts. It's funny how the select few take it personal when others don't agree with them - to the point that they become embarrassed and leave as if they've actually been shamed in real life because their opinion on the team did not pan out - only to seek revenge when if only in a small moment in time their opinion on the team seems to make sense - and they come attacking others in an attempt to vindicate themselves.

It's quite petty but that's how Knick MBs work apparently.


true cosmic, but then you have some like myself and a few others, who are here, good and bad. who only cares about seeing good basketball and appreciating wins when we get them.. the problem is, those who are here rooting for loses and tanking, take cheap shot at those who like it when the knicks occasionally win and call them, us, flip floppers, accepting mediocrity, the typical BS.. I think that is where a lot of the problems start.... If you want the knicks to lose, then good, but don't piss on others who occasionally enjoy a knicks win.....


[Edited by - tkf on 21-01-2008 12:58 PM]

This is a little in accurate. Those who want losses will comment possibly on how wins at this point piss them off. Then you'll have the DIE HARD come here and say "HOW CAN ANYONE ROOT FOR THEIR TEAM TO LOSE". Then when the team wins the DIE HARDS come here and gloat and say Ha Ha "HATERS SOUR OVER THIS WIN WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN". The Hater will then question how such Fanfare rooting for wins when all the odds suggest losses would do more good than wins for the team's future and the DIE HARD can't come up with any better rationale other than the fact wins provides them with a Knicks fix.

A perfect example was the Back-to-Back excuse disgust by the Haters against I SAY UGH only for the DIE HARD LOVERS to come back and Flip That Ish when a couple wins of ours came in the wake of a team's Back-to-Back situation.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 12:06 PM]

TrueBlue are all your friends straw men? Who is saying "WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN"

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  1:40 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

All I know is I haven't seen you post around here since the bottom fell out of the Knicks franchise... this really has nothing to do with fandom, but rather not manning up to past assertions on this forum-community. At the same time, this situation is ridiculous from both sides. This showdown was inevitable and both sides likely prepared for a flame war. Just drop it, sheesh.

The problem is that while the majority of us have discussed the Knicks on a daily basis win or lose - several posters weren't around while we were getting our heads kicked in. Then when we finally hit our second good stretch of games they don't just show up and talk about how it was good the Knicks won and why they won - they instead attack those of us who feel the team isn't very good, regardless of a win streak, and that it would still be in our best interests to go in a different direction.

Then the war starts. It's funny how the select few take it personal when others don't agree with them - to the point that they become embarrassed and leave as if they've actually been shamed in real life because their opinion on the team did not pan out - only to seek revenge when if only in a small moment in time their opinion on the team seems to make sense - and they come attacking others in an attempt to vindicate themselves.

It's quite petty but that's how Knick MBs work apparently.


true cosmic, but then you have some like myself and a few others, who are here, good and bad. who only cares about seeing good basketball and appreciating wins when we get them.. the problem is, those who are here rooting for loses and tanking, take cheap shot at those who like it when the knicks occasionally win and call them, us, flip floppers, accepting mediocrity, the typical BS.. I think that is where a lot of the problems start.... If you want the knicks to lose, then good, but don't piss on others who occasionally enjoy a knicks win.....


[Edited by - tkf on 21-01-2008 12:58 PM]

This is a little in accurate. Those who want losses will comment possibly on how wins at this point piss them off. Then you'll have the DIE HARD come here and say "HOW CAN ANYONE ROOT FOR THEIR TEAM TO LOSE". Then when the team wins the DIE HARDS come here and gloat and say Ha Ha "HATERS SOUR OVER THIS WIN WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN". The Hater will then question how such Fanfare rooting for wins when all the odds suggest losses would do more good than wins for the team's future and the DIE HARD can't come up with any better rationale other than the fact wins provides them with a Knicks fix.

A perfect example was the Back-to-Back excuse disgust by the Haters against I SAY UGH only for the DIE HARD LOVERS to come back and Flip That Ish when a couple wins of ours came in the wake of a team's Back-to-Back situation.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 12:06 PM]

TrueBlue are all your friends straw men? Who is saying "WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN"


Come on Kam you cant be serious with this question.
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1/21/2008  1:41 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:

kam, if there's anyone that deserves to be attacked, it's earl... he's the master of throwing out the sarcastic condescending innuendo & then feigning innocence when people take offense to it.

Aside from the title of this thread, which is not really an attack on anyone, where has he attacked anyone in this thread to get such a response from Cosmic? I just see Earl being attacked. Earl used to post on anopther forum with me and never had a problem with anyone. I think everyone here latches onto positive people (earl, papbear, etc..) and then try to tear them down all the time.

it's not this thread bro... come on, u've been around here long enough to know what i'm talking about... the only people that get torn down are those that enjoy doing the same to others who don't share in their point of view... u noticed posters like VDesai, newyorknewyork, etc. don't get any flack from people because they respect the opinions of everyone no matter what side they take... earl is definitely not in their class... not even close.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-21-2008 10:14 AM]

Its hilarious really. Earls a good guy. He was well liked when he posted in that other forum. He sat down with DJ for a game at MSG. He is one of the good guys. You don't have to worry that he will attack you. Yet, he is ceaselessly attacked becasue of his positivity. I mena,. i know people can be annoyed at pollyannas but thats the only thing he is guilty of. Loving and rooting for the Knicks.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  1:42 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

All I know is I haven't seen you post around here since the bottom fell out of the Knicks franchise... this really has nothing to do with fandom, but rather not manning up to past assertions on this forum-community. At the same time, this situation is ridiculous from both sides. This showdown was inevitable and both sides likely prepared for a flame war. Just drop it, sheesh.

The problem is that while the majority of us have discussed the Knicks on a daily basis win or lose - several posters weren't around while we were getting our heads kicked in. Then when we finally hit our second good stretch of games they don't just show up and talk about how it was good the Knicks won and why they won - they instead attack those of us who feel the team isn't very good, regardless of a win streak, and that it would still be in our best interests to go in a different direction.

Then the war starts. It's funny how the select few take it personal when others don't agree with them - to the point that they become embarrassed and leave as if they've actually been shamed in real life because their opinion on the team did not pan out - only to seek revenge when if only in a small moment in time their opinion on the team seems to make sense - and they come attacking others in an attempt to vindicate themselves.

It's quite petty but that's how Knick MBs work apparently.


true cosmic, but then you have some like myself and a few others, who are here, good and bad. who only cares about seeing good basketball and appreciating wins when we get them.. the problem is, those who are here rooting for loses and tanking, take cheap shot at those who like it when the knicks occasionally win and call them, us, flip floppers, accepting mediocrity, the typical BS.. I think that is where a lot of the problems start.... If you want the knicks to lose, then good, but don't piss on others who occasionally enjoy a knicks win.....


[Edited by - tkf on 21-01-2008 12:58 PM]

This is a little in accurate. Those who want losses will comment possibly on how wins at this point piss them off. Then you'll have the DIE HARD come here and say "HOW CAN ANYONE ROOT FOR THEIR TEAM TO LOSE". Then when the team wins the DIE HARDS come here and gloat and say Ha Ha "HATERS SOUR OVER THIS WIN WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN". The Hater will then question how such Fanfare rooting for wins when all the odds suggest losses would do more good than wins for the team's future and the DIE HARD can't come up with any better rationale other than the fact wins provides them with a Knicks fix.

A perfect example was the Back-to-Back excuse disgust by the Haters against I SAY UGH only for the DIE HARD LOVERS to come back and Flip That Ish when a couple wins of ours came in the wake of a team's Back-to-Back situation.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 12:06 PM]

TrueBlue are all your friends straw men? Who is saying "WE KNOW ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE MAD AT THIS WIN"


Come on Kam you cant be serious with this question.

Do you know what i'm saying though? Nobody is doing what you accuse them of. This is a habit you have - you make up this fictional Knick fan who you fight with in every post.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  1:46 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

mister earl, you are a bigger loser than Isiah.

yo, cut this crap out. Now.
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1/21/2008  1:48 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:

kam, if there's anyone that deserves to be attacked, it's earl... he's the master of throwing out the sarcastic condescending innuendo & then feigning innocence when people take offense to it.

Aside from the title of this thread, which is not really an attack on anyone, where has he attacked anyone in this thread to get such a response from Cosmic? I just see Earl being attacked. Earl used to post on anopther forum with me and never had a problem with anyone. I think everyone here latches onto positive people (earl, papbear, etc..) and then try to tear them down all the time.

it's not this thread bro... come on, u've been around here long enough to know what i'm talking about... the only people that get torn down are those that enjoy doing the same to others who don't share in their point of view... u noticed posters like VDesai, newyorknewyork, etc. don't get any flack from people because they respect the opinions of everyone no matter what side they take... earl is definitely not in their class... not even close.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-21-2008 10:14 AM]

Its hilarious really. Earls a good guy. He was well liked when he posted in that other forum. He sat down with DJ for a game at MSG. He is one of the good guys. You don't have to worry that he will attack you. Yet, he is ceaselessly attacked becasue of his positivity. I mena,. i know people can be annoyed at pollyannas but thats the only thing he is guilty of. Loving and rooting for the Knicks.

he may well be a good guy but since he's been here he's come off as hugely condescending & sarcastic & that's rubbed plenty of people the wrong way... whatever he did to get himself endeared on the other forum he hasn't followed through with here... he regularly disrespects the opinions of others & demeans them w/his flowery backhanded comments... this has nothing to do w/his positivity persay... people aren't stupid, they know when they're being insulted & so far he's never once apologized to anyone for it when called out for doing so... pretty much the same situation as Papabear only he's a lot more coy about it.
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1/21/2008  1:57 PM
I've been insulted by people on this site too... nobody has ever offered an apology. And since i'm still posting here, I guess I didn't feel like an apology was something i needed or was ever going to receive.

Earl went away for a while and now he's back. People can change.

Lets let bygones be bygones. As long as someone can show they are willing to change their bad ways, we should give them the chance. So far, this thread has been free of insults right? Maybe its a new leaf. Maybe before we begin the fierce winds of UK we should let that leaf grow.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  2:04 PM
Posted by kam77:

I've been insulted by people on this site too... nobody has ever offered an apology. And since i'm still posting here, I guess I didn't feel like an apology was something i needed or was ever going to receive.

Earl went away for a while and now he's back. People can change.

Lets let bygones be bygones. As long as someone can show they are willing to change their bad ways, we should give them the chance. So far, this thread has been free of insults right? Maybe its a new leaf. Maybe before we begin the fierce winds of UK we should let that leaf grow.

He hasn't changed one bit. His entire first post on this thread is an insult.

But like I said, don't worry because he'll disappear again as soon as the Knicks get back to their pathetic selves.

He's nothing but a fair weather fan.
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1/21/2008  2:08 PM
just like the Knicks bro, i'll believe it when i see it.

& i'm not saying he owes anyone an apology, but if u treat people a certain way, u better expect to get similar treatment in return... that's just the way it is.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-21-2008 11:47 AM]
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1/21/2008  2:53 PM
Come on Misterearl, just take a train to Happy Town.

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lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  3:48 PM
No Oohah you concentrate on the core of the expression "Fair Weather". You can be "Fair Weather" at anything.... "Fair Weather" parent, friend, fan, teammate, coach, poster etc etc etc. Band Wagon is more apropo to a "Jumping Off" Get your Post IQ up Oohah!

Okay, fine. You and he whose name I shall not emntion are bandwagon fans, not "fair weather fans". Does that make you feel better?

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1/21/2008  3:51 PM
He hasn't changed one bit. His entire first post on this thread is an insult.

Go ahead, show us the insult.

To make it easy for you, I will quote his entire post below:
The air was more breathable.

The fog on the basketball court started to lift.

While every subtle facet of a basketball game was overlooked, and painted over with the same despair and celebration of defeat... the way the Knicks played the game started to change. But no one (with few exceptions) cared to notice.

Win or lose, one cannot deny the dominoes have fallen unexpectedly since Marbury is no longer in the equation. Is that all?

First quarters are not so sluggish anymore. Jamal is playing the extended starter minutes he requires to be effective.
Zach is not only depended upon as a focal point, but a walking double-double. Nate is simply being great.

But let's not talk about crazy things like sick put back dunks or winning on the road... even in Miami... let's continue to bury these New York guys and ignore any recent details of the game on the court. Anyone can always fall back and regurgitate something about:

Dolan's incompetence, Anucha's checkbook, Larry Brown's wisdom, Isiah's incompetence, trade checker or how much the Knicks suck (Mitch Lawrence) even when they win blah, blah....

Or, you can decide whether the following quote is sanitized Knicks-speak or an indication of a few guys surviving the madness and starting to believe in each other:

“This team is in the right direction,” said Nate Robinson, who along with Jamal Crawford led the fourth-quarter charge. “We’re playing together. Thank God that everybody is just doing it for each other, instead of themselves. That’s the key.”

Why not observe the game for a change and consider how the game of basketball is being played?

Why are Knicks turnovers down and assists suddenly up? Why did 4 guys hit a balanced double figures?

Then again, is it more important to eliminate dissent, brand lovers versus haters, toss another stone at someone's head, or have everyone in some lock-step negative NY opinion on an hourly basis, no matter how the tidbits of daily evidence change?

(Iyamwutiam, holla at yo' boy Spartacus)

Go Knicks.

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this thread doesn't want to die
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/21/2008  5:09 PM
Posted by kam77:

This sounds good and all but its all lies. Where were you attacked? The only thing that happened was Earl getting attacked.

[Edited by - kam77 on 01-21-2008 10:18 AM]
[/quote]

I've had holfresh wondering what I've had for dinner the night before for some time now... I had nix telling me to "cool it".

Outside of that? I'm speaking in general terms how certain individuals who still believe in Isiah treat those who don't. ...and...even not just here, on other MBs as well.

It's silly.
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Posted by tkf:



true cosmic, but then you have some like myself and a few others, who are here, good and bad. who only care about seeing good basketball and appreciating wins when we get them.. the problem is, those who are here rooting for loses and tanking, take cheap shots at those who like it when the knicks occasionally win and call them, us, flip floppers, accepting mediocrity, the typical BS.. I think that is where a lot of the problems start.... If you want the knicks to lose, then good, but don't piss on others who occasionally enjoy a knicks win..... And it also goes the same way. If the knicks win a few games, don't start baiting, especially when history shows that the knicks will win a few and revert back to losing...

Hey, you know me, I don't root for losing. I want the team to win but since they don't I want a change and it's amazing to me that a horrible team can string together a couple of opportunistic wins - and then a select band of individuals suddenly show back up, try to tear everyone a new *******, and claim they know all there is to know in the universe.

That's... well, ridiculous lol. Where are they now? Uhhhh.. "busy with family". lol... until the next victory of course.

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