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Klytus
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1/11/2008  8:46 AM
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.
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1/11/2008  8:46 AM
Assuming this is true about Mullin, then what I see as the really good news is that Dolan is very seriously considering firing Isiah, at least from his positions of President and GM, and bringing in someone new. If that is the case, then they probably have been considering a number of people for the position and have had discussions with them. So Mullins may be one of a few serious candidates.

I am very strongly Pro-Choice on this. Get a few top candidates and chose the best one. Mullins would be a BIG step up but perhaps Colangelo would also be willing to come and Dolan willing to relinquish power. This rumor is a good sign.
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1/11/2008  8:47 AM
Posted by Solace:

Mullin isn't my favorite choice either, but there aren't many people I wouldn't consider an improvement over Isiah Thomas. In fact, I think we could extend that statement past humans. When you start getting into Isiah's own kind, you know, snakes, then it gets close.

Chris Mullin has made a lot of Isiah Thomas-like signings - Derek Fisher, Adonal Foyle.
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1/11/2008  8:56 AM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Solace:

Mullin isn't my favorite choice either, but there aren't many people I wouldn't consider an improvement over Isiah Thomas. In fact, I think we could extend that statement past humans. When you start getting into Isiah's own kind, you know, snakes, then it gets close.

Chris Mullin has made a lot of Isiah Thomas-like signings - Derek Fisher, Adonal Foyle.

That's true, but he's also made some good moves. Isiah has not made any good moves since becoming GM.
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1/11/2008  9:05 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Solace:

Mullin isn't my favorite choice either, but there aren't many people I wouldn't consider an improvement over Isiah Thomas. In fact, I think we could extend that statement past humans. When you start getting into Isiah's own kind, you know, snakes, then it gets close.

Chris Mullin has made a lot of Isiah Thomas-like signings - Derek Fisher, Adonal Foyle.

That's true, but he's also made some good moves. Isiah has not made any good moves since becoming GM.

Good point.

But if Jerry Colangelo and Donnie Walsh are interested, they need to be persued first.
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1/11/2008  9:12 AM
Fisher wasn't that bad of an MLE signing. Actually considering most MLE signings around the league, it was a damn good one. He's a great defender at the PG position that can stick a 3....pretty effective 25-30 minute per game PG.

Foyle is garbage, but even the greatest GM's in our game have overpaid for big. Everyone overpays for Big.
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1/11/2008  9:16 AM
Anyway, not saying Mullin is the best option, but he's shown a bit more acumen recently. Here are his moves:

http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/chris_mullin.htm

Taking Patrick O'Bryant has been a stinker to this point, but I always said with him that he needed at least 3 yrs, b/c he was as raw a player as I've seen- but had great mobility and hustle for a big. Monta Ellis in rd. 2 was a great pick.
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1/11/2008  9:21 AM
Kiera's not married and Mully only has one daughter unless he's got some other kid with someone other than Liz that no one's ever heard about. Are you sure it wasn't one of his sons and not a son-in-law? Or his brothers? Because they're all crazy enough to need lawyers.

I can believe that Mully wants to come here, especially since he wanted to be traded to NY his whole career and still has a lot of interests out here. The story doesn't sound too far fetched, except for the son-in-law part.
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1/11/2008  9:35 AM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

he didn't say anything when BT asked him what he would do if he were named GM... he danced around the question & said he'd have to come in & evaluate these players before he made any moves... he doesn't have any problem criticizing these players & the Knicks' draft choices however... u'd think he'd have an idea already on who he'd get rid of & who he'd wanna keep... nothing about Greg Anthony tells me he'd be any better a GM than Isiah.
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1/11/2008  9:45 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

he didn't say anything when BT asked him what he would do if he were named GM... he danced around the question & said he'd have to come in & evaluate these players before he made any moves... he doesn't have any problem criticizing these players & the Knicks' draft choices however... u'd think he'd have an idea already on who he'd get rid of & who he'd wanna keep... nothing about Greg Anthony tells me he'd be any better a GM than Isiah.

You really expect him to reveal exactly what he was going to do? That wouldn't be too smart. I liked his philosophy of building a defensive oriented team that battles in the paint. Greg Anthony seems to know to properly build a team and doesn't get fooled by overrated athletecism and offensive talent.
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1/11/2008  9:51 AM
he hasn't done anything to lead anyone to believe he'd be a great talent evaluator... he's just a well spoken individual on an ESPN broadcast... tell me what about him makes you think he knows how to properly build a team... who has he lauded in the draft that has prove him to be this awesome judge of talent in your eyes that has set him apart from any average shmo who has access to NBADraft.net?
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1/11/2008  9:52 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

he didn't say anything when BT asked him what he would do if he were named GM... he danced around the question & said he'd have to come in & evaluate these players before he made any moves... he doesn't have any problem criticizing these players & the Knicks' draft choices however... u'd think he'd have an idea already on who he'd get rid of & who he'd wanna keep... nothing about Greg Anthony tells me he'd be any better a GM than Isiah.

The question about new GM being better or same bad as IT (he cannot be worth) is not important.
Isiah MUST go to bring back the sanity to the organization.
All the rest - players evaluation, trades, GM history, bla-bla-bla is secondary.
I would endorse anybody, and I mean ANYBODY to replace Isiah.




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1/11/2008  9:59 AM
Posted by TMS:

he hasn't done anything to lead anyone to believe he'd be a great talent evaluator... he's just a well spoken individual on an ESPN broadcast... tell me what about him makes you think he knows how to properly build a team... who has he lauded in the draft that has prove him to be this awesome judge of talent in your eyes that has set him apart from any average shmo who has access to NBADraft.net?

Greg Anthony is a risk. Don't get me wrong. I'd much rather go with Jerry Colangelo or Donnie Walsh. And what evidence do you have that Anthony is not a good talent evaluator? Renaldo Balkman? He's not that good to begin with. He's a career 15-20 mpg backup.
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1/11/2008  10:01 AM
Layden, Marbury, Wilken's, Brown. Next Mullin?

When will we stop using a person's NY roots as a vehicle to buy fan sentimentality?

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1/11/2008  10:14 AM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Solace:

Mullin isn't my favorite choice either, but there aren't many people I wouldn't consider an improvement over Isiah Thomas. In fact, I think we could extend that statement past humans. When you start getting into Isiah's own kind, you know, snakes, then it gets close.

Chris Mullin has made a lot of Isiah Thomas-like signings - Derek Fisher, Adonal Foyle.

folye was a mess, and fisher was overpaid, but at least fisher will go out there and conduct himself as a professional, leave it out on the floor, lead, and fish is no scrub.. what I am saying, at least the guys mullin overpaid, don't mind playing, and playing hard. quality guys...

[Edited by - tkf on 11-01-2008 10:15 AM]
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1/11/2008  10:15 AM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

he didn't say anything when BT asked him what he would do if he were named GM... he danced around the question & said he'd have to come in & evaluate these players before he made any moves... he doesn't have any problem criticizing these players & the Knicks' draft choices however... u'd think he'd have an idea already on who he'd get rid of & who he'd wanna keep... nothing about Greg Anthony tells me he'd be any better a GM than Isiah.

The question about new GM being better or same bad as IT (he cannot be worth) is not important.
Isiah MUST go to bring back the sanity to the organization.
All the rest - players evaluation, trades, GM history, bla-bla-bla is secondary.
I would endorse anybody, and I mean ANYBODY to replace Isiah.


definitely, i'm not saying Isiah should stay at all, just that a guy like Greg Anthony shouldn't even be in our sights right now... we need to bring in a proven talent evaluator & someone who has built winning franchises in the past... Jerry Colangelo is the guy we need to be talking about, not guys like Chris Mullin much less a completely unproven like Greg Anthony.
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1/11/2008  10:21 AM
Posted by tkf:


folye was a mess, and fisher was overpaid, but at least fisher will go out there and conduct himself as a professional, leave it out on the floor, lead, and fish is no scrub.. what I am saying, at least the guys mullin overpaid, don't mind playing, and playing hard. quality guys...

[Edited by - tkf on 11-01-2008 10:15 AM]

Yeah, this as opposed to Kentucky Fried Jerome who can't last 5 mins, and all-thumbs Jared.
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1/11/2008  10:22 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

he didn't say anything when BT asked him what he would do if he were named GM... he danced around the question & said he'd have to come in & evaluate these players before he made any moves... he doesn't have any problem criticizing these players & the Knicks' draft choices however... u'd think he'd have an idea already on who he'd get rid of & who he'd wanna keep... nothing about Greg Anthony tells me he'd be any better a GM than Isiah.

The question about new GM being better or same bad as IT (he cannot be worth) is not important.
Isiah MUST go to bring back the sanity to the organization.
All the rest - players evaluation, trades, GM history, bla-bla-bla is secondary.
I would endorse anybody, and I mean ANYBODY to replace Isiah.


definitely, i'm not saying Isiah should stay at all, just that a guy like Greg Anthony shouldn't even be in our sights right now... we need to bring in a proven talent evaluator & someone who has built winning franchises in the past... Jerry Colangelo is the guy we need to be talking about, not guys like Chris Mullin much less a completely unproven like Greg Anthony.

I agree. You want to get most of the situation. And this is smart thinking.
But looking at the current condition of the organization I doubt that we will get too many decent people interested.
The probability of failure is high and this will be difficult and bumpy task.
Isiah jump on it because he is a type of a person who believes he can handle anything. Fortunately not everybody are so stupid.
But is it fortunate for us?







[Edited by - arkrud on 01-11-2008 10:24 AM]
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1/11/2008  10:49 AM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by Andrew:

Interesting that you mentioned Greg Anthony. What makes him more qualified and proven than Mullin?

It might sound stupid but I liked what Greg Anthony had to say in his interview with BT.

Listen to a Mashburn interview sometime. Jamal Mashburn makes Greg Anthony sound like Borat Sagdiyev.

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1/11/2008  10:58 AM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

Kiera's not married and Mully only has one daughter unless he's got some other kid with someone other than Liz that no one's ever heard about. Are you sure it wasn't one of his sons and not a son-in-law? Or his brothers? Because they're all crazy enough to need lawyers.

I can believe that Mully wants to come here, especially since he wanted to be traded to NY his whole career and still has a lot of interests out here. The story doesn't sound too far fetched, except for the son-in-law part.

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