Posted by sebstar:

Just annoyed at how other teams' success is rubbed in the faces of Knick fans. I remember way back yonder when Chicago was exalted as this budding dynasty (and that was reinforced thread after thread), and now that they have had a few hiccups and growing pains, here comes a new team to replace them. Stick to the Bulls if you guys have any intellectual honesty.

The deficiencies and weaknesses are largely ignored when it comes to other teams, so we get this weird mixture of gloating and envy, but generally an incomplete picture about the development of other organizations emerges over time. Not every other NBA city is Shangri-La.

I get the overall point, other squads have gone about rebuilding in a much better manner, but this slobbering over other G.Ms and fawning over other teams has become tiresome and is going overboard. I dont give a damn about other teams.

Well, it is a fact how Boston, L.A. Lakers, chicago & San Antonio have put dynasties together and how somehow along the way, we at one time had the same opportunity, building on two championships let it all get away. The only real significant thing to happen to us since then has basically been Ewing. But there just happened to be a New Yorker in the way of our chances in the 90's.

It's nice to know that we have as much opportunity to do what these teams have done. We have the resources in money and logistics, but never the right management team to put it all together. Our problems aren't the teams that we have had, but a combination of the wrong coach on a better team, or a better coach on a wrong team. And then theres somewhere in the middle of it all that doesn't quite stack up correctly either. But basically, management has been the worse part of all of this. And it got even worse when Dolan took over. That would explain why Curry for instance 'has a 300 lb. ass'. Obviously, the programs they have simply...............well.............suck!

Posted by sebstar:

Just annoyed at how other teams' success is rubbed in the faces of Knick fans. I remember way back yonder when Chicago was exalted as this budding dynasty (and that was reinforced thread after thread), and now that they have had a few hiccups and growing pains, here comes a new team to replace them. Stick to the Bulls if you guys have any intellectual honesty.

The deficiencies and weaknesses are largely ignored when it comes to other teams, so we get this weird mixture of gloating and envy, but generally an incomplete picture about the development of other organizations emerges over time. Not every other NBA city is Shangri-La.

I get the overall point, other squads have gone about rebuilding in a much better manner, but this slobbering over other G.Ms and fawning over other teams has become tiresome and is going overboard. I dont give a damn about other teams.

Posted by bitty41:

I just wanted to throw my two cents in there about Portland.

But right now teams like Utah and Houston are struggling now if this continues I would be very shocked. Also if Portland is winning 11 straight games in March then I'll be very impressed.

Also does anyone think another team not named Mavericks, Spurs, or Suns will be coming out of the West?

Posted by bitty41:

See Bip I think that is one of the biggest myths going right now in the NBA. Fans are under the impression that you attain all these high draft picks and these guys will stick around grow together then they'll be winning Championships or contending for titles 4 or 5 years down the road. Thats a myth imo because eventually money, more spotlight, more shots, more personal accolades send these guys to other organizations.

This isn't high school or college basketball where you bring in a promising Freshmen class the guys grow together then reach their pinnacle during their Junior or Senior year.

Posted by VDesai:

Yeah, but what did San Antonio do to get so good- they drafted Tim Duncan after having a bad year and didn't panic and trade to add expensive/flawed pieces around him once Robinson left.

The point anyone is trying to make with Portland is holding onto your draft picks and not patching it up with vets when you're not in a position to do so is the way you want to do it.

I just think its a mixture of vets and great draft picks. SA they really hit the lottery getting that number 1 pick Duncan's year. He was and is a legit franchise player. Not just an all-star on a good team but this guy really has the ability to turn a franchise around. Even though SA denies it that year Robinson got hurt they definetly tanked.

Why would SA panic? Tim Duncan was everything they thought he was and more. When he first stepped on the court in a Spurs uniform he became the face of the organization. If your a young player coming into this league there's not a better person to play with in the NBA.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by VDesai:

Yeah, but what did San Antonio do to get so good- they drafted Tim Duncan after having a bad year and didn't panic and trade to add expensive/flawed pieces around him once Robinson left.

The point anyone is trying to make with Portland is holding onto your draft picks and not patching it up with vets when you're not in a position to do so is the way you want to do it.

I just think its a mixture of vets and great draft picks. SA they really hit the lottery getting that number 1 pick Duncan's year. He was and is a legit franchise player. Not just an all-star on a good team but this guy really has the ability to turn a franchise around. Even though SA denies it that year Robinson got hurt they definetly tanked.

Why would SA panic? Tim Duncan was everything they thought he was and more. When he first stepped on the court in a Spurs uniform he became the face of the organization. If your a young player coming into this league there's not a better person to play with in the NBA.

Just making the point- if the Spurs were managed like the Knicks, once Robinson retired you probably would've seen them go after a big name. They've been in a position where they've had major cap space but have rejected the overpriced "stars" knowing full well the way to manage the team was to keep flexibility and add young talents- while focusing on signing guys savvy players that could fill roles like a Barry or Finley.