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Vescey: Fire Zeke & Players BEGGING to be Traded
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BlueSeats
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12/14/2007  1:07 PM
It's so funny when Knicks fans are surprised when our low IQ, unmotivated, uncoachable, injured players turn out to be lowIQ, unmotivated, uncoachable, injured players.

I'm not shocked when guys like Lee, Q, and Malik want out. They want to play with other hard working, motivated players. I can't hold it against them for wanting to be free of the same nonsense I've been wanting to be free of for the last 4 years.

But guys like Marbury, and Curry, who've been handed the keys to the truck and who are directly responsible for setting the tone of failure and for wanting Isiah to be in all controlling position he's in... you reap what you sow. I wish they could all be put in a cell together, to share the same bed, until the last of their contracts expire. They all deserve each other.
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12/14/2007  1:09 PM
Posted by VDesai:

I generally don't drink coffee in the morning, but **** man. Eddy Curry IS the Knicks. He's a lazy **** who's not interested in getting better and not interested in winning. And he's walked into an environment where the world ****ing revolves around him and he's coddle at every goddamn step of the way. And he's miserable and wants out? Be honest with yourself Eddy. You don't give a **** about winning or basketball. That's clear from your game. You give a **** about getting fat and getting paid. The Garden is your Garden of Eden buddy.

Garden of Eden? Is that a Korean Deli with all-you-can-eat fried food?

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12/14/2007  1:12 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by VDesai:

I generally don't drink coffee in the morning, but **** man. Eddy Curry IS the Knicks. He's a lazy **** who's not interested in getting better and not interested in winning. And he's walked into an environment where the world ****ing revolves around him and he's coddle at every goddamn step of the way. And he's miserable and wants out? Be honest with yourself Eddy. You don't give a **** about winning or basketball. That's clear from your game. You give a **** about getting fat and getting paid. The Garden is your Garden of Eden buddy.

Garden of Eden? Is that a Korean Deli with all-you-can-eat fried food?

We're paying him $10 million a year to not get in shape, live in the greatest city in the world with the best restaraunts. He has it about as good anyone in this city.
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12/14/2007  1:14 PM
Once again, I think no contract in the NBA should be guaranteed past 3 years.
I'd say 1 year, but I don't think that would ever fly.
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12/14/2007  1:16 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by VDesai:

I generally don't drink coffee in the morning, but **** man. Eddy Curry IS the Knicks. He's a lazy **** who's not interested in getting better and not interested in winning. And he's walked into an environment where the world ****ing revolves around him and he's coddle at every goddamn step of the way. And he's miserable and wants out? Be honest with yourself Eddy. You don't give a **** about winning or basketball. That's clear from your game. You give a **** about getting fat and getting paid. The Garden is your Garden of Eden buddy.

Garden of Eden? Is that a Korean Deli with all-you-can-eat fried food?

We're paying him $10 million a year to not get in shape, live in the greatest city in the world with the best restaraunts. He has it about as good anyone in this city.


Alright you've convinced me with this post, Presti's waiting for I SAY UGH to pull the trigger on Curry.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-14-2007 12:19 PM]
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12/14/2007  1:25 PM
Look- it doesn't have to be Seattle or someone else. But to say that a GM in the league wouldn't trade 2 bit players for Curry is asinine. No GM s(except for the very worst) are going to acquire Eddy Curry with the intention of being a franchise player. But every GM is willing to gamble on size if the cost is right and every GM is more tolerant of making mistakes on size. It has happened time and time again in the NBA and the examples run from Koncack to Foyle to James with numerous McIlVaine's and Browns and Benjiamins strewn in between. There is an NBA role for Curry- it's as a matchup scorer against teams that don't have size and guess what, teams in the league can use that b/c its rare to have quality size in this league.
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12/14/2007  1:26 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Look- it doesn't have to be Seattle or someone else. But to say that a GM in the league wouldn't trade 2 bit players for Curry is asinine. No GM s(except for the very worst) are going to acquire Eddy Curry with the intention of being a franchise player. But every GM is willing to gamble on size if the cost is right and every GM is more tolerant of making mistakes on size. It has happened time and time again in the NBA and the examples run from Koncack to Foyle to James with numerous McIlVaine's and Browns and Benjiamins strewn in between. There is an NBA role for Curry- it's as a matchup scorer against teams that don't have size and guess what, teams in the league can use that b/c its rare to have quality size in this league.

I agree, good post.
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12/14/2007  1:31 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Look- it doesn't have to be Seattle or someone else. But to say that a GM in the league wouldn't trade 2 bit players for Curry is asinine. No GM s(except for the very worst) are going to acquire Eddy Curry with the intention of being a franchise player. But every GM is willing to gamble on size if the cost is right and every GM is more tolerant of making mistakes on size. It has happened time and time again in the NBA and the examples run from Koncack to Foyle to James with numerous McIlVaine's and Browns and Benjiamins strewn in between. There is an NBA role for Curry- it's as a matchup scorer against teams that don't have size and guess what, teams in the league can use that b/c its rare to have quality size in this league.

It teams will be allowed change players after each position Eddy will be great.
Offense, sit, Offense sit, Offense, sit...
He will play the quarters when bench is close to opponent zone... to save Eddy’s energy...







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12/14/2007  1:34 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Look- it doesn't have to be Seattle or someone else. But to say that a GM in the league wouldn't trade 2 bit players for Curry is asinine. No GM s(except for the very worst) are going to acquire Eddy Curry with the intention of being a franchise player. But every GM is willing to gamble on size if the cost is right and every GM is more tolerant of making mistakes on size. It has happened time and time again in the NBA and the examples run from Koncack to Foyle to James with numerous McIlVaine's and Browns and Benjiamins strewn in between. There is an NBA role for Curry- it's as a matchup scorer against teams that don't have size and guess what, teams in the league can use that b/c its rare to have quality size in this league.

I agree, If kwame brown could be traded after underacheiving his whole career, and then getting suspended in the playoffs for tanking a playoff game by pretending to be sick. Then curry can be traded too. Just don't expect much in return.
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12/14/2007  1:38 PM
I guess the same goes for Randolph then. We're in great shape!!!
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12/14/2007  1:41 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

It's done if this is true.

Q-Brick, Malik Blows, Fatty McCurry all want out.

Now Lee and Nate do too? Wow...it's bad....it's very bad.The players want to lose so Isiah gets fired? It's understandable but players who take that route are mentally fragile and would never win even with a coach they love. That coach was once Isiah Thomas so who's to say they wouldn't turn on the new coach?



Fire Isiah, appoint Grunwald interim GM, appoint Hanners interim coach.

If Grunwald can put together deals to deport this trash then do it. If he can't then wait until the summer, fire Grunwald, and get someone in here to do this properly.


yea, that part shocked the hell out of me.. Lee and nate? I can understand now, why frye took cheap shots at NY when he left, He was just echoing the sentiments of many in that locker room, I am sure.. Isiah is a mess, dolan is an idiot and we, the fans, pay the price.... I just want this over, NOW!!!
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12/14/2007  1:46 PM
We over paid for salary dump players.

We helped the League out by being the tampon for these "Gazy" young men.

Keep Isiah until you solved Marbury, otherwise it not worth it.

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12/14/2007  1:47 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Awwwwww E-Titties no longer likes HIS BOI I SAY UGH.


So if I SAY UGH get's fired does that mean E-Titties is staying or going I'm confused now.


LOL.... yea, good one.. I remember him saying he wanted out if Isiah is fired.. Now he just wants out.. LOL..
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12/14/2007  1:56 PM
Posted by Nalod:

We over paid for salary dump players.

We helped the League out by being the tampon for these "Gazy" young men.

Keep Isiah until you solved Marbury, otherwise it not worth it.


why not start by getting rid of both? Tomorrow!! then you bench curry,crawford, and start lee, morris, chandler and let mailk play 15mpg, what can that hurt? you tell curry, nate, James, you are being benched and you are being shopped. You tell Jamal, you are going to be our 6th man, take a look at jason terry, he is better than you and he is accepting that 6th man role well. If you don't like it jamal, then join curry and nate.....

let the young guys play, get a GM and coach in place for the long haul, draft well and end this nightmare...
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12/14/2007  2:25 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

It's so funny when Knicks fans are surprised when our low IQ, unmotivated, uncoachable, injured players turn out to be lowIQ, unmotivated, uncoachable, injured players.

I'm not shocked when guys like Lee, Q, and Malik want out. They want to play with other hard working, motivated players. I can't hold it against them for wanting to be free of the same nonsense I've been wanting to be free of for the last 4 years.

But guys like Marbury, and Curry, who've been handed the keys to the truck and who are directly responsible for setting the tone of failure and for wanting Isiah to be in all controlling position he's in... you reap what you sow. I wish they could all be put in a cell together, to share the same bed, until the last of their contracts expire. They all deserve each other.

usually guys are given the keys to the franchise but the Knicks do EVERYTHING differently. Man, it's funny cause the reference didn't even phase me, and it's funny and demeaning and sad and true all at the same time.
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12/14/2007  2:58 PM
Eddy has a ton of value around the league. Not the value we paid for him but thats fine. I would use Eddy to get right of at least one of our bad contracts and just walk away. Maybe Eddy and Jerome for someone with 2 years or less. Just purge this so we are under the cap in 2 years. It can be done, you just have to be willing to take total crap back at times, but it would be worth it IMO
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12/14/2007  3:58 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Eddy has a ton of value around the league.


If we could make a wager on this I would. I bet Curry's value is lower than Zach and Zach's value was pretty low.
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12/14/2007  4:47 PM
You can't even tell if this story is true. It's Peter Vesey. The same guy that said he knew for sure that Isiah was going to be fired after 5 games in the season.
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12/14/2007  4:49 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Eddy has a ton of value around the league. Not the value we paid for him but thats fine. I would use Eddy to get right of at least one of our bad contracts and just walk away. Maybe Eddy and Jerome for someone with 2 years or less. Just purge this so we are under the cap in 2 years. It can be done, you just have to be willing to take total crap back at times, but it would be worth it IMO

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12/14/2007  9:25 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by VDesai:

I generally don't drink coffee in the morning, but **** man. Eddy Curry IS the Knicks. He's a lazy **** who's not interested in getting better and not interested in winning. And he's walked into an environment where the world ****ing revolves around him and he's coddle at every goddamn step of the way. And he's miserable and wants out? Be honest with yourself Eddy. You don't give a **** about winning or basketball. That's clear from your game. You give a **** about getting fat and getting paid. The Garden is your Garden of Eden buddy.

Garden of Eden? Is that a Korean Deli with all-you-can-eat fried food?

"Garden of Eden" sounds more like the type of establishment u might find my bros Eny & eViL chilling at on any given Friday night. *cough*
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