Posted by franco12:

Posted by VDesai:

Quentin Richardson. Everyone else is the same player they've always been, so how could they not live up to expectation?

Q is coming off back surgery in the off season-

Just think about that- they cut his back open.

He gets a pass. At least he tries- and he probably shouldn't be out there.

Eddy had his best year last year- and he follows it up with this stinker?

Sure, he has to co-exist with Zach- but zach hasn't been around and EC is still the man.

Or child.

Posted by kam77:

Q rich is a black hole on offense if you pass it to him and he finds himself behind the 3pt line. ESPECIALLY if its the first 3 minutes of the game. THIS mofo thinks its his right to take his temperature while eschewing the teams set plays and inside-outside game.

David Lee. This MOFO gets rejected more than Screetch did on saved by the bell. David Lee spent all summer working on his jumper. Thats a wasted summer. Should have spent time on his lateral quicks. Should have spent time studying tape of the leagues SFs.

Marbury...? everyone KNEW that Marbury would dissapoint. Is it a surprise?

Posted by kam77:

There are different degrees of disappointment and right now its mostly with Isiah.

I want a new Coach. a new GM. or Both.

Posted by BlueSeats:



oohah

will

always

be

a

"real"

fan.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by BlueSeats:



oohah

That's

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always

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call

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"real"

you

fan.

BlueSeats.

Classic!

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by kam77:

Q rich is a black hole on offense if you pass it to him and he finds himself behind the 3pt line. ESPECIALLY if its the first 3 minutes of the game. THIS mofo thinks its his right to take his temperature while eschewing the teams set plays and inside-outside game.

David Lee. This MOFO gets rejected more than Screetch did on saved by the bell. David Lee spent all summer working on his jumper. Thats a wasted summer. Should have spent time on his lateral quicks. Should have spent time studying tape of the leagues SFs.

Marbury...? everyone KNEW that Marbury would dissapoint. Is it a surprise?

Damn, if you're a lover I'd hate to hear what the haters are saying.

I don't know if there are any lovers left.
Dying breed.

I think the only one left is Misterearl, and he's hiding in the bushes.
There is a man hunt out for him.

MisterEarl is a lover? I never quite understood what he was saying. Thanks for letting me know.

I think Minister Of Propaganda is his official title.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by kam77:

There are different degrees of disappointment and right now its mostly with Isiah.

I want a new Coach. a new GM. or Both.

How does that work - how can you like the players but not the guy who gave them to you?

We have some good players. It's like imagine you were in a rock band and the lead singer totally sucked but the backup singers and other instrument players were halfway decent. What would happen? Would the music come out decent? Maybe, maybe not. Most likely the band would do their jobs, the lead singer would torture everyone with his vocals and people would throw **** at them onstage.

Now look at the knicks. We got some decent players. Guys who can do their job. Lee, Balkman, i'll add Fred and because i'm a lover i'll extend my olive branch to Nate and Crawford. These guys can fill a role on a good team. Heck, even Quentin Richardson hustles. I like guys who bring it. But all that hustle and role playing will only go so far. The lead singer(s) are still the ones who determine if the end product is any good.

Our lead guy has been Isiah and his lead guy has been Stephon. Automatically those guys need to go.

Curry and Zach are both good enough that they can be salvaged by playing with and following the orders of a top-flight PG and Coach.

In short, Talent and Energy are not the problems. We have energy hustle guys and we have very talented scorers. The problem is, and always has been chemistry and leadership. Install a real leader. A top flight leader who backs his words up with his play, and the chemistry will follow.

We can jettison talent and still become a better team. We have too much talent and not enough Knick pride. When you have too much talent, you're bound to have chemistry issues. You're bound to have some unhappy guys. Guys who will say "I gotta get mine"
Even ****ing David Lee hasn't learned the art of the head fake or shovel pass. He constantly goes up to get swatted. No guile, no trickery.. just here it is, block it. And why? Why is David not more patient with the ball under the hoop this year? Because he needs to get his. So even a good role player will get corrupted on a team with a void in leadership.

Thats all there is to say. Everyone knows we're talented. Everyone knows we got no true leadership and we have chemistry issues. But the answer everyone keeps bringing up is that its the players fault. That the players are stupid or lazy. Hey... some opf the players are... and when enough of them are. it doesn't matter how 'nice' the rest of the team is. A couple of bad apples (Isiah, Marbury) in leadership positions will ruin things for everyone.

Posted by Panos:

Don't think too hard on it, Bip. Just enjoy the jelly donuts.