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BasketballJones
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12/8/2007  9:01 PM
Sure, our guys aren't perfect. Sometimes they make mistakes, and often they lose games.

But just compare it to where we were years ago, with Layden. Back then we had Layden as GM, Chaney as coach. Eisley was the point guard and we had Clarence Weatherspoon on the team. Now we're much younger. Things are much better now. Don't forget that we lost a year of development under Larry Brown.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 12-08-2007 21:03]
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12/8/2007  9:05 PM
This is painful. I must be the only guy still watching this game.
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12/8/2007  9:06 PM
There's no doubt in my mind the team is trying to get I SAY UGH fired!
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12/8/2007  9:06 PM
No wonder Andrew and Martin didn't sticky this game thread.
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12/8/2007  9:06 PM
The Knicks futures so bright that I gotta wear shades.

Oh wait, no... that's because watching the Knicks has made me blind.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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12/8/2007  9:06 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

This is painful. I must be the only guy still watching this game.

No, I'm watching it and enjoying every second of it.

I'm just too busy laughing to post.

[Edited by - islesfan on 08-12-2007 9:06 PM]
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12/8/2007  9:07 PM
Knicks are killing me on GamePicker the last few games. I've made the mistake of picking them to win.
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12/8/2007  9:08 PM
Posted by Solace:

Knicks are killing me on GamePicker the last few games. I've made the mistake of picking them to win.

I have them losing tonight, but by 1-5 so I'll just get a point.
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12/8/2007  9:09 PM
Wow......I've had enuf. G'night all....or few!!
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12/8/2007  9:09 PM
This is all Larry Brown's fault.
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12/8/2007  9:10 PM
I don't understand why the fans are saying "Fire Isiah". Don't they know how that saps the team's confidence?
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12/8/2007  9:10 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.
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12/8/2007  9:10 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BasketballJones:

This is painful. I must be the only guy still watching this game.

No, I'm watching it and enjoying every second of it.

I'm just too busy laughing to post.

[Edited by - islesfan on 08-12-2007 9:06 PM]


This good stuff. Dolan is present tonight but one thing I glean from this game is how the Sixers are playing vs the Knicks. They are playing hard although limited in many ways. They don't have a Superstar nor an All-Star player on their team. Their coach is still inexperienced in some ways they have veterans but young players still developing. They are giving it their all and we can't handle it.
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12/8/2007  9:14 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

I think your sig says it all. Go back to drinking kool-aid and avoiding reality.
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12/8/2007  9:16 PM
That's not a flagrant 2.
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djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:19 PM
why is jamal still playing? he's putting up a zach type performance tonight.
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12/8/2007  9:19 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

That's as cold blooded a post as I've ever seen on this board.
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Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

I think your sig says it all. Go back to drinking kool-aid and avoiding reality.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced obstacles.
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12/8/2007  9:20 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.
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12/8/2007  9:21 PM
alot o time let in this game...philly isn't a high octane offense so the knicks can come back.
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