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Bonn1997
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12/4/2007  12:28 PM
So Joba probably won't be available for the playoffs? That would suck!
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12/4/2007  12:32 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

So Joba probably won't be available for the playoffs? That would suck!

No that's a regular season limit in all likelihood.
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12/4/2007  12:54 PM
According to Olney:

And late Monday night, the Yankees held their ground in talks with Minnesota, and the Twins and New York seemed to hit an impasse, and the Twins turned to the Boston Red Sox to continue talks, asking for Jon Lester's medical information. Here's the deal Minnesota pitched to New York last night: P Phil Hughes;, OF Melky Cabrera, P Jeff Marquez and either P Alan Horne or OF Austin Jackson. The Yankees turned it down.
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12/4/2007  1:27 PM
oh brother, the Twins want all that from the Yanks but are seriously considering the package the Red Sox are offering... ridiculous... i really hope the Dodgers get involved in these discussions & get Johan, cuz right now if i have to deal w/another Curt Schilling-esque trade to the Red Sox i'm gonna puke.
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12/4/2007  1:28 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:


Go to court with that claim and see what happens. I can't imagine a court ruling that that is tampering.

the Yankees don't have to make any statements to Johan or his agent... everyone knows he's gonna get paid bigtime if the Yankees make a trade w/the Twins to get him.
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12/4/2007  1:41 PM
Posted by VDesai:

They will have innings limits that will expand a bit more from last year- I think Joba will be closer to 150 or so, and Hughes a little more than that because he was injured. Kennedy can go 200 innings this year.

i think 150 innings out of Joba is very optimistic... he is our prize prospect, they're going to baby that arm of his... the most innings Joba's thrown in any single season was his first year of college ball in '05 when he had 118 under his belt... he had 89 innings the following season & then was pretty much rushed through the minors to the majors in '07 because of the Yankees' dire need for a setup man & totalled only a little over 100 innings altogether... we're probably looking at getting 2/3 of a season out of him at best right now... the rest will have to be picked up by Moose or someone else... just consider the fact that Johan himself didn't even hit 150 innings at the ML level until his 4th season... not that the Yanks are planning to wait til 2010 before Joba hits that level, but it's hard to imagine them stretching him like that in only his 2nd season when they were so careful about his innings count last year.

i feel confident about Kennedy at around 180 innings or so next season, which is why i really wanna hold onto him at this point... he was still going strong at the end of last season before they shut him down... that's a great sign right there.
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12/4/2007  1:44 PM
I didn't make the up the number- I read somewhere that it would be at 150, I just can't find the source right now. I thought they were supposed to increase it by 30 inning increments.

Hard to compare to Johan cause Johan pitched in relief a lot untill he was finally added to the rotation.
Phil Hughes officially on the table for Santana

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