Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by Bippity10:
Number 2, stop calling this play "more entertaining"
Of course THIS current play is NOT entertaining. This is worse than I can remember. However, over the history of Isiah's tenure the players we have had vs. those that Layden's are. That doesn't mean the team was winning, but many fans -- maybe not you -- had those feelings over the course of Isiah's tenure, whether it be more athletic play or seeing young players -- which Layden never attempted to bring in -- show us things to get excited about for the future of the team. Even Frye, who is gone, created some excitement in his first season. Layden never even had someone like Channing Frye. That says a lot to me about who has had more entertaining players.
I agree some fans got excited over false promises. Some did not. Some were mortified by the constant parade of misfits that Isiah brings in. I will be the first to admit that I am settling and have resigned myself to the type of players that Isiah targets. But not at one point have I been more entertained by this. Maybe it's becuase i grew up on the rarely dunking, mostly defensive and hustling Knicks of the 1990's, and have not found high flying losing teams to be very fun to watch. It's the "old school" in me.
On their own they were younger and more exciting. Together yeesh
Tim Thomas
Jalen Rose
Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Stephon Marbury
Jamal Crawford
Zach Randolph
Mo Taylor
Steve Francis
Qyntel Woods
Jackie Butler
This is what passes for entertainment these days?
Bip, I grew up on the 90's Knicks too, but the last days of that squad under Van Gundy left a sour taste in my mouth about being overly obsessed with that style while the NBA was changing to a more athletic scorer friendly league. Stern started his attempt to undermine that era of Miami-NY 78-75 games, and the defensive oriented schemes Riley and Van Gundy were using.
That's why I had hope with Isiah, was that he saw that the team needed more athleticism to compete. Did he do it the best way? He neglected defense far too much and in the end that killed us, IMHO. Regardless, his way of getting players many suspect was the way he had to under Dolan's mantra for "win now." Not saying this "excuses" Isiah, but one wonders if he could do it another way back then would he have or was it Dolan's mantra guiding his decisions?
That's why I always blame Dolan more, because the trend has been the same since he took over the team. Isiah and Layden are just two differing versions of the same approach. This is what concerns me for the future most, btw.
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