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bitty41
Posts: 22316 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 12/3/2006 Member: #1215 |
Posted by TMS:Posted by King1: Im sorry but even KG's couldn't get his team to .500 with no real supporting cast. Zach never proclaimed himself as the "franchise player" but yet everyone wants to hang that rope around his neck. He's not a franchise player okay we all get that! |
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
First Boston gave a some quality young players and please dont compare Kevin Garnett and Zach Robinson the only thing Zach is better at is getting arrested. Zach team was awful the last two years and he doesnt make people better.
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
But Zach is getting franchise money. What I am saying if you trade for Zach you get rid of Lee for a lottery pick then you're a much better team.
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bitty41
Posts: 22316 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 12/3/2006 Member: #1215 |
Posted by King1: Read my above post no one is annoiting him a franchise player your the one putting him into that box. But if you can just wrap your mind the idea that Zach could be just another piece of a puzzle than maybe just maybe you would understand that Zach Randolph alone with no complimentary outside players around isn't going to turn a sub-par team in a Eastern Conference Final contender. What am I writing tonight sanskrit? |
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bitty41
Posts: 22316 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 12/3/2006 Member: #1215 |
Posted by King1: I rather be paying Zach franchise money than Steve Francissy or would you have preferred him on the roster? |
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
Francis his money comes off the books quicker and we paying Zach 17 million in 2011 and we miss out on the 09 free agent class
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
There is no way anyone will trade for Zach so yoou have him the next 4 years on your team
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
Well Bitty I will go on record that Curry and Randolph will never win big on the same team. Under this regime the Knicks wont ever win.
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bitty41
Posts: 22316 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 12/3/2006 Member: #1215 |
Posted by King1: Oh no your kidding I didn't know that Zach sucks lets get rid of him now. |
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bitty41
Posts: 22316 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 12/3/2006 Member: #1215 |
Posted by King1: I agree 100% you could bring in Duncan and this regime would screw it up. |
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
Zach Randolph’s voice was weak and his eyes red as he dressed at his locker late Wednesday night. Randolph had spent the past four days in Indiana, grieving the death of his grandmother. He had 16 points and 19 rebounds on Wednesday night, but no regrets about coming back after missing two games. “It’s difficult,” Randolph said. “I know that’s what my grandma wanted me to do, was come and play. She probably would have been mad if I would have stayed.” Randolph left the team again to attend a funeral in Indiana on Friday. He will miss the game against the Sacramento Kings and is uncertain for Saturday’s game in Denver.
-NYT once a knick always a knick
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bobs3304
Posts: 24827 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/5/2005 Member: #948 |
Posted by BlueSeats: Yup. And listen, Lee is awesome. I love DLee. But to say Zach doesn't run the foor is preposterous.......and this is coming from an established hater. Zach runs the floor just as good as David Lee. He's not as explosive vertically, but I'd say he's more athletic making moves WITH the ball. My solution: Among doing other things, deal Lee for a shotblocker in the lottery this summer... Does 2 things - gives us small window of cap space in '09 (if we're prudent), and helps interior d. DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure.
And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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bobs3304
Posts: 24827 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/5/2005 Member: #948 |
Posted by King1: That's blasphemous. 20 &10 guys GET traded. Look at Marbury, arguably more "troublesome" than Zach in his career, and teams took a chance on him 4 times... DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure.
And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
It's not accurate to say that Zach doesn't make hustle plays. When you can't jump and yet you STILL get rebounds on both ends that's HUSTLE. He's not great on D, but he gives effort.
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
Posted by bitty41:Posted by TMS:Posted by King1: well yeah, no kidding... that's sorta the entire point i'm trying to make here... we traded for a non franchise player who's making franchise level dollars once again... when are we finally going to learn our lesson & stop throwing bad money after good for these reclamation projects that never do anything for our team but prolong the salary cap hell this team has been in for the past decade? After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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bobs3304
Posts: 24827 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/5/2005 Member: #948 |
^ Zach was signed to a 6 Year 84 Million $ deal.
That's 14 mill a year. That's alot. But it's not franchise money. Compare it to Marbury's contract extension in 2003 - 4 Year 77 Million. That's more than 19 a year. THAT'S franchise money. DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure.
And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
Posted by TMS:Posted by Vmart:Posted by TMS: Its not quite logical- but you add a player like Zach because he's the best you can get for Francis & Frye- and if things don't work out with Curry & Zach, you've got the flexibility to possibly trade Curry for another player who fits in the scheme better. Yes, its fantasy basketball... |
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King1
Posts: 22993 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2005 Member: #998 USA |
First Marbury is the biggest loser int he history of basketball. Someone may trade for Zach but it will be a bad organization. It wont be a top tier franchise. If we get a new GM the first thing they will do is trade one of the three bigs
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