Posted by tkf:

I voted dissapointing, simply because we held Al jefferson to 16 points and still struggled. We let craig smith look like mark aguirre and we let buckner and gomes( gomes is a pretty good player) look better than they really are, and that is a knick trademark, even walt mentioned this during the game. I mean craig smith? got damnm,the guy was posting up and shooting off of his wrist and it didn't get smacked back in his face. Ratliff outran curry several times down the court. Let me tell you, I had season tickets 5 years ago and I used to sit behind the hawks bench,one row behind them, and ratliff could barely pull his broken down ass off of the seat, yet yesterday he was posting curry and throwing up hooks with little resistence from curry.. I don't want to eeek out a win vs a mediocre team, I want to have good performances and solid wins. Time to raise the bar fellas.. play time with this team is over.. Nice to have the win, but that is it...

I agree although CS gots some skills

It appeared to me Whittman might have been coaching the game not so much to lose but trying to win it with his scrubs, and he almost did. Leaving his best player Jefferson and a savvy vet like Walker on the bench for extremely long stretches, leads me to believe Whittman wasn't trying to pull out all stops against us. Keep in mind they didn't have Randy Foye either. We look like a very mediocre, maybe even less than team.

bringing in some guys off our bench into the starting unit does change the dynamic of both the starting unit and the 2nd unit. a move like this may help our starting 5, but we do take a hit with our 2nd unit's energy.

I don't really like the way they have been playing truthfully. They don't come off as a team to me. There were many times when one extra pass would have gave a teammate a wide open look. Instead that player decided to shoot the ball over making the extra pass. From Crawford, to Randolph, to Curry, to Marbury. They are more into looking to get there own shot off rather than trying to create plays for teammates. Thats a Larry Brown philosophy. The were cappable of doing so many more times last game than they did.

Though I doudt Isiah will do it. He should break down the game tape. Pin point every single time that the ball handler should have made the extra pass. Be critical of them for not doing it, until they get it.

David Lee, I like the way he has challenged shots in the paint banging down low.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

I don't really like the way they have been playing truthfully. They don't come off as a team to me. There were many times when one extra pass would have gave a teammate a wide open look. Instead that player decided to shoot the ball over making the extra pass. From Crawford, to Randolph, to Curry, to Marbury. They are more into looking to get there own shot off rather than trying to create plays for teammates. Thats a Larry Brown philosophy. The were cappable of doing so many more times last game than they did.

Though I doudt Isiah will do it. He should break down the game tape. Pin point every single time that the ball handler should have made the extra pass. Be critical of them for not doing it, until they get it.

David Lee, I like the way he has challenged shots in the paint banging down low.

isiah, as a player, wasn't the guy to make the extra pass. he was one of the greatest point guards ever, but if he had the shot, he had the confidence to take it, and he would take it, mostly, make it. and i feel he applies the same philosophy to his players.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 11-05-2007 1:22 PM]

If thats true that he applies that to his players then the offense will never reach the potential that our talent could take us to. We will continue to be Tim Thomas. And at this point we need our offense to be the best it can be since our defense is horrible.

We have 4-5 players with great one on one ability. If we could use there excellent ability to beat there men. Use it to open up shots for others they could be a very strong offense. Create shots for your teammate, and depend on your teammate to open up shots for you. Its a great philosophy that definatly applies to this team.

Larry Brown had a great philosohy, but his approach with the players was wrong. Isiah Thomas has his players ear and respect since he is the GM and they all look up to him. Its sad if he has the wrong philosophy.

Posted by franco12:

eeking out a win over a team most expect to win in the 20's. not good.

yurp.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by misterearl:

defense comes with familarity and trust

switching QRich and Marbury out for Balkman/Chandler and New Nate won't hurt either.

really? I thought it came with effort and work

so when our guys down put a body on someone or get in the path of someone (and thus might actually physically touch them) it just because they aren't familiar. Good to know

fish - if you don't think all the players are adjusting to how NBA refs are being scrutinized, then you are more delusional than Trevor Ariza's entire family. Yikes. If the Knicks sent the Wolves to the free throw line then you would be bellyaching about the extra free throws.

How many calls went against Eddy Curry on obvious flops?

Defense is trust.

Trust me.

Posted by misterearl:

Newsflash

>>This isn't a TEAM. It's a collection of egos.

bobs discovers an NBA player without an ego. Film at eleven.

with jerome on the squad, you can damn sure bet there's a bunch of eggo's around.

wait a second...ohhhhh...EGO's...not eggo's. my bad.

bobs3304 - what door have you been standing in front of?

Lebron's "ego" looked to be in decent shape on Friday night.

The ego-thing is much too simplistic for the sophisticated palette. They ALL have egos. To the extent that players learn to alternately impose, and subjugate, their individual will is a delicate balancing act that only leaves a satisfying aftertaste when you win.

When you lose, the Kobe/Jordan/Wayne Gretzky/A-Rod/Terrell Owens/Jerry West/Reggie Jackson-sized ego becomes a target.

When you win, that same ego sells plenty of posters.

Posted by bobs3304:

^ I have no idea what you just said.

hehehehe