Posted by Allanfan20:

Nice going Isiah. Oohah, it's a big deal when you can keep Nichols, but crap ars players like Jared and Jerome are unmoveable. Oohah, how on Earth can you possibly say Matt Carroll is better when NOBODY here knows how good an NBA player Nichols can be. Tell me, do you think Wilson Chandler is better too cause we've barely seen much of him too.

thats the Isiah regime.

rvhoss went on and on about how Jerome James made sense because "we NEEDED a center."

What we need is a young team of guys that play hard. What we need is talent. What we need is players that can improve and grow. Even if we dont have high picks we need to add players that have a shot at becoming a good NBA player. Jerome James represents none of those things.. yet here we are. Waiving young players because we have him taking up a roster space.

Are those guys going to get us to the playoffs? To a title? Probably not. But they are more examples of how this team and GM constantly makes mistakes and wastes resources.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Nice going Isiah. Oohah, it's a big deal when you can keep Nichols, but crap ars players like Jared and Jerome are unmoveable. Oohah, how on Earth can you possibly say Matt Carroll is better when NOBODY here knows how good an NBA player Nichols can be. Tell me, do you think Wilson Chandler is better too cause we've barely seen much of him too.

I can say Carrol is better because I watched them both and I have seen what they can do. Yes, Chandler is better. I've seen him play. He can do many things and Nichols can do one thing.

oohah

when carrol was in knicks camp he could shoot then and he can shoot now. Portlan cutting him means nothing because portland was basically a tire fire back then. The spurs? well I can see that, they were stocked.

Carrol is a good bench player on a bad team? year charlotte is bad, but no worse then us last year, that is for sure, and he is a legit contributor on that team, unless you think they gave him a multi year deal, near 30 mil, for just being a decent back up on a bad team. You can spin it how you want. Shooters in this league are at a premium, carrol can shoot, and nichols can shoot, plus he is 6'8 and showed the potential to be a good defender. We cut him, wasting a second round pick, and still keeping useless jerome james on this team. I really thought this team was trying to move forward... damn

I prefer Carrol to Crawford. The point is, we were unable to develop a player like him at that point and the same holds for a lot of other teams. So can be a good bench player for a bad Charlotte or a bad Knicks. Not much difference in result.

My point is this: It ain't no big deal. Everyone can get all wound up about it all they want. If nichols develops into a good bench player on a bad team in 3 years good for him, I could not care less.

oohah

I'm so pissed. I'm a Syracuse graduate and I watched Nichols get better and better by leaps and bounds every year he was at Syracuse. The kid is a good character guy, he would have immediately been our best 3-point shooter, he's a super hard worker and he even wants the ball when the game is on the line. He's got a ton of heart (where JJ1 has none). There were a couple of games last year for the Cuse where Nichols was so on fire the other teams were double teaming him and he was still rising up over them with his 6'8" frame and lighting them up. I know he probably wouldn't have seen any burn this year but he's the kind of guy who you can throw into the game for a few minutes late in a 3rd quarter where we're down by 17 to see if he's on and if he is the lead can be cut in half in minutes. The guy gets that hot. I'm just really bummed.

The fact that Jerome James still has a roster spot and Nichols doesn't has me infurtiated. What a freaking waste.

Posted by djsunyc:

should've cut fred jones.

with mardy at 6'5 and able to defend and balkman coming back, we would've been fine without fred jones.

I disagree... Fred Jones is ballin, playin great defense... why cut him??? Why would u cut someone who is actually producing and looks mad hungry over someone who hasent produced **** in the years he has been a Knick besides hunger towards the buffet

btw, this is a direct result of isiah overpaying for his players. can't cut long term contracts whenever you want isiah...

Not only can't cut, but when you overpay everyone on the roster, NO ONE WANTS YOUR CRAP. Trades are unlikely.

Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:

I guess this decision really boils down to Fred Jones and D-Nic. If Jones is balling, i guess in the short term i'd have no problems with this but in the long term it might hurt if D-Nic's potential is as good as some of the papers make him out to be. I'd really love to cut JJ fat's ass to keep Nichols though common sense means that you never trade a big body in your roster for a 2 guard but for JJ fat i'd do it. I'd even play Balkman undersized at the 5 when we're short than have JJ fat suit up, that is if he's fit enough to suit up.

I agree. Hell you can play Z-BO at the 5 in the East. He is a legit 6-9 with B-U-L-K. And you can also play Lee spot minutes there and STILL have Randolph Morris at center. We could have made do. All for a guy who has played roughy 50%(85 out of a possible 164 games) and is out for the whole season.


I know, I know, Isiah, his contract is a valuable trade commodity.

This just highlights one of the biggest problems Zeke has: admitting his mistakes.

Jerome James was a mistake. Instead of admitting it by cutting him, we keep his fat unmotivated butt on the team while we cut Nichols.

I think what oohah was trying to say was right. It's not the end of the world. Worse things have happened to the Knicks (like the Jerome James signing).

However..again..considering the fact that it looks like our offense will center on throwing the ball down low..wouldn't it help to have an outside shooter like Nichols?

I think Nate and Q can fill that role but a young cheap guy like Nichols would have been infinitely preferable to a waste of space like James.

I know it's been said 1,000 times already but I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that we're still giving a roster spot to Jerome Frikkin James