Posted by nixluva:So why shouldn't I expect Lee, Nate and Balk to have a positive impact? Why shouldn't I expect that Zach and Curry will have a positive impact? Why should anyone expect any of these guys to take a "step back"? All you're saying is that there is a "CHANCE" that one or more of these guys will be "worse" than they've shown, but you don't give any credence to the idea that they may be better. Why is your point valid, given that of all the young players only Mardy has shown any signs that this may happen?
Saying Positive impact is very generic and vague and you know it. It what sense Luva? Yeah any one of those players throughout the yr may go off for career nights, wreak havoc on defenses form time-to-time, maybe even collectively, it doesn't mean the team will win games or improve their record from last yr and including the previous yrs. The fans who have disdain are only concerned with W's and Effort and which one of such fans has said Balkman, Lee, or any other player will have a negative impact? I said the trend the past 3yrs shows some will progress and some will regress. You can only go off of what has transpired Luva but instead you go off a "what if everything is perfect scenario". Reality and Fantasy are two different things Son.
Where did I say that "every single player" would have a standout year? That's not even the point of what i've said. YOU are making that interpretation. This is something you do all the time. You're making up a false representation of my opinion. How about you stick to what I've actually said and stop trying to put words in my mouth? I also didn't say anything about numbers, YOU are the one making this a point of argument, again because you need to make up something to bash me about.
Once again clarify moreso what you mean by positive impact? And name a player that will have more of a negative impact than positive since every team has such player. If you can't then that speaks for itself. I haven't seen you post anything that shows you're going to be conerned with any player on this team. Sorry that's very unrealistic we sustain problematic players. Every rotational player last yr had positive impact on the team at some point in time and they also had plenty of negative impact our record reflected it. Starting the majority of games behind and playing catchup shows players who contribute negatively. And there have been plenty players who took a step back on the team last yr....Channing, Q, Crawford, Nate, Jeffries, Francis. Francis being a very good example of what I'm trying to explain. A player we traded for with fans trying hard to justify it like you're doing with Zach.
You were one of the fans that felt the back court combination of Francis and Marbury could work. You believed Francis would have positive impact on our season last yr, well statistically he was a nightmare, never really was in game shape all yr, and you can tell by how he played once he came back to the team and in Pre-Season for the Rockets his leg injury was never as bad as led to believe. Had to be sent away from the team. Although he was directly responsible for a about 3 wins last yr that I can recall, so you're right in respects to having some kind of positive impact but overall he hurt this club, having more of a negative impact and not of all his own doing(plenty of it had to do with coaching).
I also feel Francis presence may have contributed,(not solely responsible obviously) to Marbury being in a funk for the first couple months. Who in his own right negatively impacted our season and remember it was the first half of the season that you keep crutching to, along with the injuries as to why our season didn't fair as well as you think it could have. Steve may have had a double edge sword whammy in regards to negative impact. Channing ditto helped win some games(Detroit, Utah, or Charlotte can't remember) but overall more of a negative impact and took a step back not all of his own doing though(plenty of it had to do with coaching). Crawford literally shot us out of more games than in.
You seem to show the disdain you have for players on this team whenever you post, cuz you can't refrain from using your STUPID nicknames for the players you don't like. What are you in 2nd grade?
ROTFLOL @ you yeah Nix I'm the only one calling players nicknames(Chubby, Big Snacks, McCurry, Bundybury, IR-ich, Crawful, Special Nate, Effries, Fishlips, Z-Rapist, Doubewide, Snickerdoodle, Frankenstein) none of those coined by me but yeah I'll draw from the well and use them from time-to-time and/or make up my own. That must mean you hold many of conversations with quite a few second graders but it doesn't matter if they are talkin to a 1rst grader.
You have no way of proving such an outlandish claim, so please keep that crap to yourself.
Sorry History can't be rewritten
We'll see how wrong I am. I don't think I was wrong about the team last year. You and others choose to discount the injuries last year only cuz this fits with your negative slant on the team and you can claim victory over anyone who thought the team had a chance at the playoffs. That's fine, but don't expect everyone here to accept your stance. No one said anything about predicting the team would be consistent last year. The idea was that the team should show progress and get better as the season went along. The team was getting better. Not totally consistent, as many would wish, but they did make some progress and that didn't stop until the injuries hit.
If you want use the LB season and excuses as a barometer from which to improve go ahead but I refuse to, my standards are higher than yours and will be..... ALWAYS AND FOREVER!
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-23-2007 5:26 PM]
10/23/2007 2:54 PM
