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KARNIVORE
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Nigeria
5/28/2003  4:34 PM
at #9 take ;AMPE / at #31 take LANG / at #39 take PERKINS !!! We get a SF, PF & a CENTER !!! We already have a PG in MILOS !! That would be 4 outta 5 positions filled with youth & an eye on the future !!!
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5/28/2003  4:34 PM
Posted by Pike:

Future... not past or present.

Future involves most importantly... salary cap and contracts. No one worse than us. Age... with the possible exception of unproven and unsigned Vujanic, we have no good young players. Talent... we're aging... with the few players we have worth a d*mn, past their prime.

[Edited by - Pike on 05/28/2003 16:28:38]

The Clippers will never, ever, ever, ever, never be a contender. Not before. Not now. Not ever. There is no hope when your owner refuses to pay his players what they are worth. Sterling is a greedy, selfish fargin bastij and that org will always be lucky if they break into the playoffs. As bad as Dolan is, Sterling is the worst owner in sports history. Bar none.
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5/28/2003  4:48 PM
Whatever, they have younger talent than us (by far)... don't have to pay Houston 20.7M in 2007 and don't have to endure Eisley and Anderson and the rest of our STIFFS!

Clippers have a horrible owner and somehow Elgin still has a job but, give me their players, contracts and CAP situation for ours... and I don't think this is debatable. What say you
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5/28/2003  5:40 PM
Posted by Pike:

Whatever, they have younger talent than us (by far)... don't have to pay Houston 20.7M in 2007 and don't have to endure Eisley and Anderson and the rest of our STIFFS!

Clippers have a horrible owner and somehow Elgin still has a job but, give me their players, contracts and CAP situation for ours... and I don't think this is debatable. What say you

I agree, the key is having the flexibility, The knicks have none. If the clippers owner one day deceided to let Elgin run that team with out interferrence the clipps can make moves!! they have young talent and tons of cap space!! the key here is the ability and flexibility, something the knicks don't have... Even if dolan wanted to change things...
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5/28/2003  8:55 PM
Posted by Pike:

Question of the day:

Taking everything into consideration, name another NBA franchise that has a future more bleak than the New York Knicks?

Utah Jazz, LA Clippers (just 'cause they are the clippers), Atlanta Hawks..........
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5/28/2003  10:25 PM
All I have to say is the comments about the knicks future as being the worst in the league is so bogus I had to check the writers. I guarante you from this season on NY will "NEVER" have the "WORST" record in the league. This is a man's league not some bubble gum chewing zit face young buck league. NY will always be at the door even though they are in a "MAJOR" transition, why? Because they have vets who have pride. Some people want Dolan to turn into Peter Pan and use his magic wand and make some fans happy like some i just read. READ MY KEYS IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN YOUR WAY. Chill !
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5/29/2003  2:11 AM
playa, you are crazy man, if you think the knicks future is not more bleak than the clippers, Hawks, etc. because of our veterans than you are a fool man, what veterans? Anderson, spoon, eisley? LOL come on dukes, Houston, Spree, KT,? Do you really think that this makes our future brighter, how do you think that when they are here now and our present sucks...

The clipps, Jazz, Hawks, all have the ability to better their futures, and so does the Cavs as sad as that sounds, they are not burdened with a bunch of monster contracts and over the hill has beens, they have the flexibility, weither they exercise that is another story but at least they can...

Why is that hard to see.... We can't do anything, even if layden all of a sudden decided to use his brain!!!

We are stuck B...
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5/29/2003  7:16 AM
TKF, why are you changing what i said to make your point Dukes? I said NY won't ever have the "WORST RECORD" in the league compared to the hawks , clipps , cleveland and whoever else who thinks because they can slam bam jam and make ESPN HIGHLITES and Posters that they can win more games than the Knicks in any 82 game season. When is the last time you saw a veteran team consisting of 3/4 of the team are vets come in last place in the NBA? Probably a long time ago, this league is a kiddie corp now .Young buck teams will always have the worst record in the league, this is a Man's league not a AAU LEAGUE.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/29/2003  10:17 AM
YAAAWWWNNNNNN !!! Wake me up with a new topic !!!
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Posted by playa2:

TKF, why are you changing what i said to make your point Dukes? I said NY won't ever have the "WORST RECORD" in the league compared to the hawks , clipps , cleveland and whoever else who thinks because they can slam bam jam and make ESPN HIGHLITES and Posters that they can win more games than the Knicks in any 82 game season. When is the last time you saw a veteran team consisting of 3/4 of the team are vets come in last place in the NBA? Probably a long time ago, this league is a kiddie corp now .Young buck teams will always have the worst record in the league, this is a Man's league not a AAU LEAGUE.

so what is your point playa? are you saying you are content with mediocrity?
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5/29/2003  10:32 AM
Posted by KARNIVORE:

YAAAWWWNNNNNN !!! Wake me up with a new topic !!!

Like your Iverson for Knight, Nailon and Postel deal lmao.
tkf
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5/29/2003  12:56 PM
Posted by Pike:
Posted by KARNIVORE:

YAAAWWWNNNNNN !!! Wake me up with a new topic !!!

Like your Iverson for Knight, Nailon and Postel deal lmao.

hahahaaa!!!
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KARNIVORE
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5/29/2003  1:15 PM
exactly, an impossible deal but it took your mind off the JEFF VAN GUNDY / LARRY BROWN / LATRELL SPREWELL crap. lol.... i even said the deal was crazy so its not like i was serious....... lol...
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5/29/2003  1:43 PM
Posted by DefAndReb:



Still say it was an even trade.
an even trade????

the knicks got nothing return in the trade with denver. nothing

how is that even????
all those years as a fan and now i'm the anti-knick. life is crazy aint it.
Pike
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5/29/2003  1:49 PM
IF McDyess actually stepped foot on the court, Prod. lmao
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5/29/2003  3:26 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by playa2:

TKF, why are you changing what i said to make your point Dukes? I said NY won't ever have the "WORST RECORD" in the league compared to the hawks , clipps , cleveland and whoever else who thinks because they can slam bam jam and make ESPN HIGHLITES and Posters that they can win more games than the Knicks in any 82 game season. When is the last time you saw a veteran team consisting of 3/4 of the team are vets come in last place in the NBA? Probably a long time ago, this league is a kiddie corp now .Young buck teams will always have the worst record in the league, this is a Man's league not a AAU LEAGUE.

so what is your point playa? are you saying you are content with mediocrity?
What I am saying is why continue to change the unchangeable just accept the deal if not , go heist some loot of some train in switzerland and buy a team like "ROBERT JOHNSON" did the Charlotte Franchise. Other than that you have to dance with the one you came with or switch teams.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/29/2003  3:33 PM
why do you continue to write about jeff van gundy 2 years after he quit.

why do you continue to jock sprewell.



who don't you switch teams. you like don nelson right?
all those years as a fan and now i'm the anti-knick. life is crazy aint it.
playa2
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5/29/2003  3:44 PM
Well if you can read , it says even jeff vangundy honda civic as a topic. How many yrs ago was that? He is all up in the new Headlines and is still knicks property until july 31 why ya"ll starting to trip stop hating and go back to debating.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/29/2003  3:47 PM
When he get's at least four million per to coach again, I guess he'll be able to get himself a new car.
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5/29/2003  3:48 PM
I don't have time to bash the knicks they are my favorite team , I have two eyes , I can see what's happening to them. I for one will always try to find some good on this team and hope they cahnge things around regardless if it takes a lil while. What is ever in headlines I believe it is topic worthy.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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