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King1
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10/13/2007  6:40 PM
A captain is a leader and what guy on this team is a leader? The Knicks have not one leader on this team.
AUTOADVERT
4949
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10/13/2007  6:43 PM
Posted by Elite:

Lee shouldent be captain this year but he is the guy i would want to be captain in the near future

He's got to earn it. Anyone has to earn it.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/13/2007  6:46 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Anyone have a youtube video of whatever Q-Rich play he's talking about where the ball slipped out his hands?

You didn't see it? Q Rich had a breakaway layup, and he tried to dunk it in some crazy way and the ball just slipped out of his hands. Everyone just laughed, but then I realized, they'd be killing Nate or other people if they did that, so I think Q SHOULD be criticized for that, in fairness to other people who clearly would have been criticized.
Quentin Richardson is not constantly doing stupid **** and doing stupid bounce passes for a dunk unlike Nate so there should be any criticism to Q because the ball slip out of his hands, it's BBall things like that happen whrn your not doing it on purpose.

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10/13/2007  7:08 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Elite:

Lee shouldent be captain this year but he is the guy i would want to be captain in the near future

He's got to earn it. Anyone has to earn it.
Except Marbury!
4949
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10/13/2007  7:13 PM
Yes, of course.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/13/2007  7:48 PM
"The two most important people in our organization are Jim Dolan and Stephon Marbury." -- Isiah Thomas, 2004.

Steph will always be captain of this team. That's why he's got to go.
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10/13/2007  11:05 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

"The two most important people in our organization are Jim Dolan and Stephon Marbury." -- Isiah Thomas, 2004.

Steph will always be captain of this team. That's why he's got to go.

The captain is the last man to leave the ship...
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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10/14/2007  4:14 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cartman Plays The White Card

Cartman - did you conveniently forget that Zeke played under Bobby Knight, with Bill Laimbeer and hired Kelly Tripucka as a Knicks scout?

Hey, even Jared Jordan is Black

did you conveniently forget that he'd have a BIGGER problem with a white man calling a black woman a bitch? i stand by my assessment. he HAD to play under those people. he HAD to try to get talent to make the knicks better...doesn't mean he suddenly promotes a white guy to captain. as i said.....i stand by my assessment.
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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10/14/2007  4:16 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by 4949:

Lee's always well spoken. Suckbury should take a cue.

On the subject of overhauling. I know I've been pretty brutal on this roster, but in reality, if we can only make a few minor adjustments, then we'd have a decent future to look foreward to. This is all it would take:

Isiah Gone!
Dolan Gone!
Suckbury Gone!
Curry Gone!
Zach Gone!
Jerome Gone!
Nate Gone!
Houston Gone!
Jared Gone!

That's all it would take. Just a few little moves and we'd be set. That's not asking for much is it? We can do this.

love lee but i dont think a white guy on isiah's team is going to be captain anytime soon. lol.

regardless.......you pretty much turned over the whole knicks roster in your post. i am guessing you want othella harrington and moochie norris back.

'What would make you think that'?!!! I hated those MF's. You don't think we can have better players? Your not one of those Knick lovers, are you? The lovers lie to themselves every chance they get.
everyone hates the knicks. the whole basketball world would love to see the knicks do bad. whether it was zeke making the trades or whoever else, they'd try to make very unfair trades or no trades with the knicks. maybe you are forgetting with almost every deal he was buying first round picks (except of course the stupid 2 first round picks giveaway for curry).......and drafting is his ace card.
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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10/14/2007  4:18 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Elite:

Lee shouldent be captain this year but he is the guy i would want to be captain in the near future

He's got to earn it. Anyone has to earn it.
Except Marbury!
exactly..........i hate that!

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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10/14/2007  7:06 AM
If we are to have a captain, Q is the guy. He plays hard and smart and gets along with the other players. I think Lee has what it takes to be a captain, but he's not considered a veteran yet and that's important.
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10/14/2007  9:06 AM
Posted by Ira:

If we are to have a captain, Q is the guy. He plays hard and smart and gets along with the other players. I think Lee has what it takes to be a captain, but he's not considered a veteran yet and that's important.
Thats who my vote go too.
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10/14/2007  1:34 PM
I agree Q should be the guy. He's not afraid to speak to a player in front of everyone. He's very vocal on the court.

The thing is, i don't think he'll be on the team too long. Honestly, the real captain for this team isn't here yet.

Once isiah is gone and the knicks move into a new direction, we will see a new capt for a long time..

The Future. GO KNICKS!
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10/14/2007  1:52 PM
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by 4949:

Lee's always well spoken. Suckbury should take a cue.

On the subject of overhauling. I know I've been pretty brutal on this roster, but in reality, if we can only make a few minor adjustments, then we'd have a decent future to look foreward to. This is all it would take:

Isiah Gone!
Dolan Gone!
Suckbury Gone!
Curry Gone!
Zach Gone!
Jerome Gone!
Nate Gone!
Houston Gone!
Jared Gone!

That's all it would take. Just a few little moves and we'd be set. That's not asking for much is it? We can do this.

love lee but i dont think a white guy on isiah's team is going to be captain anytime soon. lol.

regardless.......you pretty much turned over the whole knicks roster in your post. i am guessing you want othella harrington and moochie norris back.

'What would make you think that'?!!! I hated those MF's. You don't think we can have better players? Your not one of those Knick lovers, are you? The lovers lie to themselves every chance they get.
everyone hates the knicks. the whole basketball world would love to see the knicks do bad. whether it was zeke making the trades or whoever else, they'd try to make very unfair trades or no trades with the knicks. maybe you are forgetting with almost every deal he was buying first round picks (except of course the stupid 2 first round picks giveaway for curry).......and drafting is his ace card.

ON Isiah's drafting as his ace card: Ariza's gone. Channing's gone. Nate's an idot. David is great, but how's his recovery? Renaldo Balkman is great, but what's with this injury? Mardy Collins showed some promise with limited time, but what's with the secret surgery and how's his recovery? Wilson Chandler hasn't even stepped foot on an official NBA game court yet. I'm still wondering where the gems are at and the impact they have made on this team?

Stoudamire, Camby & McGrady made thier marks 'somewhere else' and they haven't really been any kind of a factor in going to the finals, let alone the playoffs. The only rings that Isiah has factored in, in all of this is his own two, when he played with Detroit.

[Edited by - 4949 on 10-14-2007 1:55 PM]
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/14/2007  2:15 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I agree Q should be the guy. He's not afraid to speak to a player in front of everyone. He's very vocal on the court.

The thing is, i don't think he'll be on the team too long. Honestly, the real captain for this team isn't here yet.

Once isiah is gone and the knicks move into a new direction, we will see a new capt for a long time..


Agreed. Isiah biggest failing has been his inability to acquire and foster sound leadership. That includes the ranks of players, head coaches and himself.
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10/14/2007  3:23 PM
Everybody Hates Raymond

"everyone hates the knicks"

Cartman - not me
once a knick always a knick
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10/14/2007  4:38 PM
Okay, lemme axe you this:

Who was better as a rookie and second year player: David Lee or Stephon Marbury? The answer is Marbury.

Who had more success over his first 2 seasons, Stephon Marbury or David Lee? Marbury was 40-42 as a rookie, 45-37 as a second year player.

As far as I am concerned Lee has been a good player on a bad team for his first 2 seasons. As far as being a winning player in the NBA, Lee has just as much to prove as anybody else on the team. Certainly more than Marbury does.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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10/14/2007  5:01 PM
BlueSeats - we is doomed

Abandon ship!
once a knick always a knick
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10/14/2007  5:02 PM
hold up, isn't tha captain 'spozed to go down with the ship?

Lee is doomed!
once a knick always a knick
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10/14/2007  5:12 PM
Posted by misterearl:

BlueSeats - we is doomed

Abandon ship!

Will this be your standard response to all posts regarding Isiah's shortcomings?
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