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Michael6835
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10/5/2007  2:17 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

What is all this lover talk? I am not a lover. I am a realist.

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Why is it that every guy who claims to be a "realist" is totally out of whack with reality??

dam bro, how long did it take you to type all that out.
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smackeddog
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10/5/2007  2:20 PM
I don't think it's a case of there being more haters, it's just that they're more vocal- they feel the need to post every negative article to show that they're right and every positive article to dismiss it or ridicule it.

There are positives about the knicks this year- I love the way people seem to be re-writing history and making out we sucked last year- yes it was a crap start but the team really started improving and if it wasn't for all the injuries then they would have made the play offs.

IT has made some good moves (as well as some god-awful ones!) I'm looking forward to seeing how Balkman, Mardy Collins, David Lee, Nate, Wilson Chandler and DM improve, and I hope Eddy builds on last year. The veterans seem to have made more effort this off season- Marbury's in better shape, Crawford has put on the extra muscle people have been crying about for years, Eddy's lost weight and is stronger and quicker, Q-Rich is meant to be back on form and Jared Jeffries has been reportedly working his ass off.

All the haters can focus on is Steph's interviews (who gives a ****!) and IT's sexual harassment case (yeah- thats why I watch basketball...). I can understand those that care not wanting to get their hopes up again only to be dashed, but all the negativity has gotten ridiculous lately.
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10/5/2007  2:21 PM
welcome to the forums... if you've really been reading these forums for the past 2 years like you say you have, you'd know that many of the so-called "negative posters" have been conditioned to be that way by the poor decisions made by the Knicks' upper management & the pathetic play of this team over that time... not all of us were always so down on this team for your information, but you already knew that, right? so i guess a newb should tell us where we should post now that not many of us have positive things to say about this team that has consistently failed to live up to expectations for the past several years? very nice 1st post to ingratiate yourself with the regulars btw... hope you enjoy your stay.
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islesfan
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10/5/2007  2:25 PM
Why does the "Why the **** is everyone on this board a hater?" thread keep getting more posts AFTER it was locked?
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10/5/2007  2:28 PM
If Knicks start the season hot, Randolph, Curry, Marbury & Crawford look good. Then the *lovers* will be out in full force rubbing it in the *haters* faces while the haters eat a lot of crow and find ways to defend there stances, and vice-versa.

Who will eat crow? It should be fun.



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tkf
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10/5/2007  2:32 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

As the wise man bippity once said:

"I don't have to cheer these players to prove I'm a Knicks fan, they have to play hard to prove they are knicks".
Bip was right once again.

Nice comment, but what exactly are "Knicks" we act as if these guys are tarnishing a storied history of winning... come on. We put so much emphasis on the knicks of old. Unless you are talking about the walt frazier/ red Holzman knicks, then I just don't get it... I enjoyed the ewing era with oak and starks but some people need to wake up. those guys didn't bring any rings home either...... And when it is all said and done the most excitement this team gave me was during the bernard king years and the 99 team with camby, Houston and spree.......
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Nalod
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10/5/2007  2:37 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

If Knicks start the season hot, Randolph, Curry, Marbury & Crawford look good. Then the *lovers* will be out in full force rubbing it in the *haters* faces while the haters eat a lot of crow and find ways to defend there stances, and vice-versa.

Who will eat crow? It should be fun.

Except for Isles, I think most majority whom are labled "haters" want wins, so why is there crow served? Not many are saying we will suck this year, we just don't expect much and prefer to wait to see what happens. We'll root accordingly, cheer for wins and boo the loses.

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10/5/2007  2:52 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BlueSeats:

As the wise man bippity once said:

"I don't have to cheer these players to prove I'm a Knicks fan, they have to play hard to prove they are knicks".
Bip was right once again.

Nice comment, but what exactly are "Knicks" we act as if these guys are tarnishing a storied history of winning... come on. We put so much emphasis on the knicks of old. Unless you are talking about the walt frazier/ red Holzman knicks, then I just don't get it... I enjoyed the ewing era with oak and starks but some people need to wake up. those guys didn't bring any rings home either...... And when it is all said and done the most excitement this team gave me was during the bernard king years and the 99 team with camby, Houston and spree.......


Who said anything about rings? I'm talking about playing hard and making me proud. Who on this team has made you proud? More than likely someone burried on the bench, if anyone.

People puff their chest out and talk about what kind of fan they are, and how they are what a "true" fan is supposed to be. Great, but these wonderful fans, who are optimistic about everything, have made lousy analysts; their optimistic predictions have been way off, but then they take pride in that thinking that's what a fan is supposed to do. You've used that tact yourself.

I'm talking about the onus of performance being on the players not the fans. Many of us are lousy fans because we could see these guys have been lousy professionals. Pardon us for recognizing the obvious.
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10/5/2007  2:54 PM
So now "Pure Knicks Love" = "Never-wavering Knicks Praise"
newyorknewyork
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10/5/2007  2:58 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

If Knicks start the season hot, Randolph, Curry, Marbury & Crawford look good. Then the *lovers* will be out in full force rubbing it in the *haters* faces while the haters eat a lot of crow and find ways to defend there stances, and vice-versa.

Who will eat crow? It should be fun.

Except for Isles, I think most majority whom are labled "haters" want wins, so why is there crow served? Not many are saying we will suck this year, we just don't expect much and prefer to wait to see what happens. We'll root accordingly, cheer for wins and boo the loses.

Of course everyone wants wins. There are those who have faith in these current players & this team, and those that don't. So I guess that crow will be served for those that lost faith and yet gave the *lovers* who maintained there faith a hard time for maintaining there faith. Just like crow will be served for those that keep faith and gave the *haters* who lost faith a hard time for losing there faith.

Can I get an amen.
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mythfaze
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10/5/2007  3:01 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

If Knicks start the season hot, Randolph, Curry, Marbury & Crawford look good. Then the *lovers* will be out in full force rubbing it in the *haters* faces while the haters eat a lot of crow and find ways to defend there stances, and vice-versa.

Who will eat crow? It should be fun.

Except for Isles, I think most majority whom are labled "haters" want wins, so why is there crow served? Not many are saying we will suck this year, we just don't expect much and prefer to wait to see what happens. We'll root accordingly, cheer for wins and boo the loses.

Of course everyone wants wins. There are those who have faith in these current players & this team, and those that don't. So I guess that crow will be served for those that lost faith and yet gave the *lovers* who maintained there faith a hard time for maintaining there faith. Just like crow will be served for those that keep faith and gave the *haters* who lost faith a hard time for losing there faith.

Can I get an amen.

Wait... I thought if the Knicks won we all won. No crow-serving necessary.

As much as people criticize the current state of affairs, I don't think anybody will be hanging their heads if this team pulls together and puts on a hell of a show for us this year.
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10/5/2007  3:19 PM
Posted by Michael6835:

dam bro, how long did it take you to type all that out.

I didn't type it all out. Copy-paste is your friend. Took about 12 seconds or so.
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newyorknewyork
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10/5/2007  3:48 PM
Posted by mythfaze:
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

If Knicks start the season hot, Randolph, Curry, Marbury & Crawford look good. Then the *lovers* will be out in full force rubbing it in the *haters* faces while the haters eat a lot of crow and find ways to defend there stances, and vice-versa.

Who will eat crow? It should be fun.

Except for Isles, I think most majority whom are labled "haters" want wins, so why is there crow served? Not many are saying we will suck this year, we just don't expect much and prefer to wait to see what happens. We'll root accordingly, cheer for wins and boo the loses.

Of course everyone wants wins. There are those who have faith in these current players & this team, and those that don't. So I guess that crow will be served for those that lost faith and yet gave the *lovers* who maintained there faith a hard time for maintaining there faith. Just like crow will be served for those that keep faith and gave the *haters* who lost faith a hard time for losing there faith.

Can I get an amen.

Wait... I thought if the Knicks won we all won. No crow-serving necessary.

As much as people criticize the current state of affairs, I don't think anybody will be hanging their heads if this team pulls together and puts on a hell of a show for us this year.

I don't think anyone will hang there heads either if the team wins. But a guy like Nixluva will definatly have bragging rights for all the hard work work he has put in defending the knicks. Its not a big issue guys.
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TMS
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10/5/2007  4:50 PM
there isn't a fan on this board w/the exception of maybe 1 or 2 that would be unhappy if they were proved wrong & the Knicks exceeded their expectations in the coming year... that said, i don't see some of the usual overly optimistic cast of characters here admitting to being wrong if this team were to underachieve yet again this season, but we'll see how that plays out.

btw, unwavering support for this franchise has nothing at all to do w/having a negative viewpoint on the current state of this team... you can be a loyal fan of a team & still be critical of the way they've managed team affairs for the past several years... you don't need to be exclusively a rose colored glasses wearer, (or an overly negative doomsday sayer for that matter) to be a fan of any team... not sure where that whole notion came about to begin with.
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10/9/2007  10:52 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BlueSeats:

As the wise man bippity once said:

"I don't have to cheer these players to prove I'm a Knicks fan, they have to play hard to prove they are knicks".
Bip was right once again.

Nice comment, but what exactly are "Knicks" we act as if these guys are tarnishing a storied history of winning... come on. We put so much emphasis on the knicks of old. Unless you are talking about the walt frazier/ red Holzman knicks, then I just don't get it... I enjoyed the ewing era with oak and starks but some people need to wake up. those guys didn't bring any rings home either...... And when it is all said and done the most excitement this team gave me was during the bernard king years and the 99 team with camby, Houston and spree.......

Who said anything about winning titles in order for me to be proud of the players? I'm pretty sure the quote said "play hard"

When guys admittedly come to camp out of shape that annoys me. That's a slap in the face to me as a fan, because when they come to camp out of shape they effect MY TEAMS record. I'm not sure why I am supposed to applaud and support that. Same goes for excuse making, pouting on the bench during come backs, complaining about coaches, quitting etc. Once you stop doing these things and play your arse off, I will cheer you regardless of record. IF you need any evidence of this just see my unwavering support of players like Balkman and Lee. Rookies get a pass. Vets get the wrath.
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10/9/2007  10:56 AM
bippity - who came to camp out of shape?

once a knick always a knick
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10/9/2007  11:17 AM
Look, the main difference between some of us is that some of us can see how this team has been built and is starting to develope and we assess what the chances for success are. Then there are others who have given up doing that and just want to wait and see. However, there IS A GROUP here that has said they don't like the talent and that our talent is cast off's and losers. They don't think we can win anything of consequence with this roster, owner and Coach/GM. They take every opportunity to bash and discredit the team and they predict another losiing season. Guys like Bip aren't haters, but they do exist and I doubt that when it comes to this roster, owner and Coach/GM, that they really want to see them win. In fact some have experssed that they'd like for the team to lose so that we can get rid of them. Others have suggested that Stern step in to get rid of them. This isn't some offbase perception about "Haters". It's a fact.

Let's also get another thing straight. Haters love to make it sound like Lovers, cheer everything and never have a complaint. COME ON! That's not true. Sure some of us, myself included have a more positive tack, but I don't like everthing that happens or everyone on this team. The problem I have with Haters, is that you NEVER really get any hint of positive from them. Surely there are things to be happy about or optimistic about with this team and you never get that. Don't tell me it's not true, cuz the proof is in the posts.
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10/9/2007  11:21 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I wonder what the homers imagine it would be like if everyone just talked about how wonderful the Knicks are and how bright the future is all the time. I think things would get pretty boring around here.

A CHILLING LOOK AT LIFE WITHOUT THE HATERS:
Posted by Nixluva:

This team is so great!!! Even though they've lost four in a row, Isiah has them almost clicking on all cylinders.
Posted by misterearl:

I agree.

Do you think Billy Biscuit Brisco was phased by a four game losing streak? If you do, you have to turn in your certified Knicks fan card.

Sheesh!
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Ditto. Isiah is the man. We almost won tonight!!
Posted by nixluva:

We're only one ten game winning streak from being back in it. Can you feel it? Let's go Knicks!!
Posted by misterearl:

Ten game winning streak?

Sheesh!!

Do you think Johnny Jones Tumbleweed would settle for a ten game win streak?

I didn't think so. This Knicks team is gonna win 20 in a row. I can feel it in my loins.

We gotta cue up some sweet Jazz!

Sheesh!
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10/9/2007  11:40 AM
Posted by misterearl:

bippity - who came to camp out of shape?

LMAO You think they deserve some kind of credit for coming into camp in shape?!?

Isn't that what they're supposed to do??

Unbelievable!

Sheesh
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10/9/2007  11:48 AM
Islesfan, a suggestion. If you are going to interject yourself into a conversation (as I am doing now) at least bother to read the preceding posts beforehand.
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