If I wanted legitimate conversation I'd attend the MIT website on quantum mechanics.

I'm a troll. happy now?

Basketball star unveils low-cost clothing
range to curb violence in US inner cities
By Tony Favro, US Correspondent

17 December 2006: In September 2006, professional basketball star Stephon Marbury of the New York Knicks announced that he was producing a line of inexpensive athletic clothes and shoes. The Starbury-brand items retail for less than US$15, far less than the $150 to $300 for name brands of sportswear such as Nike or Adidas. One of the reasons Marbury gave for entering the apparel business was to “keep kids a little safer.” Marbury reasoned that children wearing low-priced jackets and sports shoes would be less likely to become crime victims.

In American inner cities, where residents are predominantly poor and Black or Latino, youth are beaten, robbed, and even killed for their fancy sports apparel. Atlanta police report an average of 12 violent muggings for sportswear per month since 1990. Over the same period, Chicago police report about 50 violent acts involving jackets and coats with sports-team logos and about two dozen involving expensive athletic shoes each month.

When Stephon Marbury unveiled his low-price clothing, he referred to a 15-year-old girl from Minneapolis, Minnesota who was murdered for the expensive jersey on her back. Such murders of children have become commonplace in American inner cities, as designer sports clothing has become popular among violent street gangs. Clothing with logos was involved in some way in virtually all of the more than 4500 juvenile gang killings in the US over the past five years.

In 2005 – in an effort to reduce gang violence -- Mayor Ron Gonzales of San Jose, California asked merchants to stop selling sportswear with the numbers 13 and 14. The number 13 is a symbol of San Jose’s Surenos gang; 14 is used by the Nortenos gang. Public school districts in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Portland, Oregon, and several other US cities have banned clothes with logos of any kind, except school logos, in response to violence committed against their students.

nanny nanny boo boo

At a time in America when public schools (and the communities that provide their students) are highly segregated by income and race, and government funding is being reduced for parks and libraries – traditional public spaces where people from all walks of life can mingle – brand-name clothing is increasingly the only common thread shared by urban and suburban youth.

It’s a thread of imagery, attitude, and illusion. Behind the illusion is the reality, or betrayal, of the American city in the form of high prices, job loss, and the resulting social isolation, and violence.

What is being betrayed, ultimately, is no less than the central promises of American global capitalism: the promises of increased connectivity, interactivity, prosperity, and freedom.

- Tony Favro, US Correspondent

Posted by misterearl:

Solace - I'm with Andrew on this one. What is the point of your repeated redundancy?

You hate Marbury. We get it. We get it. Okay?

Wait, misterearl is complaining about somebody else's redundancy

And not just any plain redundancy, but repeated redundancy.

sheesh

indeed

Posted by misterearl:

It's Only Basketball

Solace - c'mon, don't you have anything better to do than regurgitate some trivia about the past?

I don't need, or require, your approval of any response on Knicks basketball. It's an open forum, not a freakin' term paper... or some competition to prove who knows whatever... take a page from the djsu book of writing...it don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing?

comprende?

It's supposed to be fun.

sheesh

This post is very rude and insulting towards Solace. Add to this your other purposeless inflammatory posts, like this one:

At a time in America when public schools (and the communities that provide their students) are highly segregated by income and race, and government funding is being reduced for parks and libraries – traditional public spaces where people from all walks of life can mingle – brand-name clothing is increasingly the only common thread shared by urban and suburban youth.

It’s a thread of imagery, attitude, and illusion. Behind the illusion is the reality, or betrayal, of the American city in the form of high prices, job loss, and the resulting social isolation, and violence.

What is being betrayed, ultimately, is no less than the central promises of American global capitalism: the promises of increased connectivity, interactivity, prosperity, and freedom.

- Tony Favro, US Correspondent
misterearl

not to mention your history of similar posts, I think it's severe enough for you to lose your account privileges. But that's just me.

Indeed

Once Marbury got himself in condition and bought into the system that focused on Curry, the former all-star guard played his best games as a Knick.

You mean he was in good condition and that was his best? You mean that's it?!

Physically, Marbury looks fit and seems to be a step quicker. With the Knicks lacking a proven backup point guard, keeping Marbury healthy and productive is crucial.

- Frank Isola

Ira - could it be that Marbury is also having an effect on his backcourt partner in crime?

"Not only has Jamal Crawford returned bigger (a muscular 204 pounds up from 189), he's also been talking bolder.

Crawford told The Post this week the starting shooting-guard job should be his, no doubt. The past two years he began opening night as a reserve. "I don't know why I wouldn't be," Crawford said. "I've done everything that's been asked. I went back and forth, starting, coming off the bench. It's time to go to a new level of my career. Starting shouldn't even be a question."

Yesterday, Crawford added, "Did Kobe Bryant get traded here? No disrespect to my teammates but is Dwayne Wade coming? I don't see anybody else."

- Berman/NYPost

Monster's Ball

loweyecue - I only placed Solace in the redundant categoryy. That was not an inaccuracy. That is a fact.

Characterizing Marbury as a monster is a tad bit strong. Whether he has met the standard to be described as a role model or saint is not the issue. Greatness? I cannot think of many basketball players beyond Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Kareem, Bird, Bernard or Magic that I would put in the great category...

My posts only follow a consistent theme of countering the negative portrayals of Knicks players by people who don't have the patience to watch the new season unfold and/or celebrate every loss . If that is too redundant... well, whatever floats your pontoon...

so sue me