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Randolph Admits He's Not In Shape Curry Curious Of Duo
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10/2/2007  11:17 PM
He is in Indiana I believe not Portland
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10/3/2007  6:33 AM
Curry: I don't have any personal goals. Honestly, it's all about the team. I will adapt any way I can and however I have to in order to make the playoffs.
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10/3/2007  6:58 AM
Zach Randolph left Charleston yesterday after morning session to be with his gravely ill grandmother in Indianapolis and likely will miss today's sessions.
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10/3/2007  7:09 AM
"Jerome James, suffering from left knee tendinitis, sat out some drills."

Randolph Morris, please pick up the orange courtesy phone...



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10/3/2007  7:10 AM
Posted by King1:

no injury he left to be with his grandmother I didnt know it was already reported. I am looking at Zach history the guy showed up the day of physicals, was at a strip club last year on bereavement leave, and know leaves first day of practice. Do you really think he will try and get back ASAP

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10/3/2007  7:11 AM
Posted by misterearl:

"Jerome James, suffering from left knee tendinitis, sat out some drills."

Randolph Morris, please pick up the orange courtesy phone...

don't worry, jerome will tough it out and be there when we need him.
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10/3/2007  7:16 AM
Posted by martin:

wow, you guys are arguing over other dude's weights and how they look in pictures.

i know man it's like a freaking sausage fest in here. are we wearing togas to the opening night uk get-together?
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10/3/2007  7:23 AM
Speaking of Curry....

let us send a prayer up for him and Etan Thomas while we are kvetching over dude's weights:

Wizards' Thomas Has Heart Ailment
Irregularity Could Threaten Career

By Ivan Carter
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 3, 2007


RICHMOND, Oct. 2 -- Veteran Washington Wizards center Etan Thomas did not participate when training camp opened Tuesday after a recent cardiac test revealed an irregularity that could potentially be career-threatening.

Thomas, who was slated to compete with Brendan Haywood for the starting center job, learned of the test results late last week following a routine physical, according to Ernie Grunfeld, the team's president. Thomas remained in Washington on Tuesday awaiting the results of further tests.

The team has not set a timeline for a possible return, and Coach Eddie Jordan indicated that he did not expect Thomas to be available before training camp breaks on Saturday.

"It's shocking and our thoughts are with him," Jordan said. "We talked [Monday] night and he's very disappointed. He's concerned and we're all concerned, but everything is in the early stages right now and it's going to be some time before we know the extent of it after all of the medical examinations."

"When we heard about the news this morning I just gave him a prayer and I've had him in my thoughts all day," said forward Antawn Jamison, who has played with Thomas since the 2004-05 season. "It's tough to not know if you are going to play the game of basketball again. The only thing we can do now is pray that he's going to be able to play and that everything works out. The most important thing is his health and his family. This is one of those situations where basketball is very secondary."


Medical personnel in the NBA have been increasingly cautious with heart issues since the death of former Atlanta Hawks center Jason Collier in October 2005.

Collier, who had never had any major health problems previously diagnosed, died of a sudden heart rhythm disturbance caused by an abnormally enlarged heart.

In 2005, then-Chicago Bulls center Eddy Curry was diagnosed as having susceptibility to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a potentially fatal heart condition that was linked to the deaths of Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis.

Curry was eventually traded to the New York Knicks, where he is entering his third season with the team. Former Minnesota Timberwolves guard Fred Hoiberg was forced to retire after the 2005-06 season when it was discovered that he had an aneurysm in his aortic root, a condition that could have been fatal had Hoiberg continued to play.

Grunfeld said the Wizards would be "cautious" while evaluating Thomas and said the team is awaiting the results of more testing before determining his status. Grunfeld added that Thomas had not had cardiac irregularities previously diagnosed.

"It's hard to swallow," said guard Gilbert Arenas, who has played with Thomas since 2003. "I know I went through a knee injury and that's nothing like what he's going through. I know it's going to take him awhile mentally to bounce back from it because it is his career being jeopardized. Etan and his family have to be strong and he has our support."
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10/3/2007  7:34 AM
Posted by misterearl:

4949 - how do you propose the players respond to the daily inquiries of New York beat writers on deadlines for the next eight months, seven days a week?

Do you really think, "shutting their mouths" is an option?

or would that make them subject to NBA fines for being non-cooperative?

Well I guess if they can't live up to what they say (year after year) then maybe it's best just to say nothing about performance. Maybe just be honest and say 'wait and see' rather than 'We're going to have a good season' or something like that. I grow tired of promises, with bad results. Don't you guys?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/3/2007  7:35 AM
Posted by misterearl:

"I'm here to win basketball games!"

4949 - yo dude, wasn't the "bending backwards" for the media exactly what Isiah resented?
Isn't that a different situation though?
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10/3/2007  7:39 AM
How bout this:

'I look foreward to another season in a Knick uniform. I'm hoping I can contribute to this team and hope we can all make the right adjustments to have a successful season. With a little luck, I'm counting on a season with limited injuries and look foreward to doing everytihng we can to make our fans proud of us. We will see.'

That's a more honest approach and it's still optimistic.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/3/2007  7:42 AM
Situation Analysis

4949 - are you certain that Isiah's resentment of extra public relations work is not so different from you not wanting to hear about it?

what would you want him to say?

"we're entering this season with humility and at peace with the universe"
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10/3/2007  7:43 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Curry: I don't have any personal goals. Honestly, it's all about the team. I will adapt any way I can and however I have to in order to make the playoffs.
The best scenario is when you have personal goals that help your team. Not having any personal goals is shocking actually.
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10/3/2007  7:43 AM
or

"we're getting fired up to kick some major boonkie!"
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10/3/2007  10:33 AM
Posted by martin:

wow, you guys are arguing over other dude's weights and how they look in pictures.

I'm with you Martin. This post is very disturbing to me
I just hope that people will like me
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10/3/2007  10:37 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Curry: I don't have any personal goals. Honestly, it's all about the team. I will adapt any way I can and however I have to in order to make the playoffs.
The best scenario is when you have personal goals that help your team. Not having any personal goals is shocking actually.

I agree. It indicates apathy. Hmm... a Knicks player with apathy. Maybe this result isn't so surprising after all.
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10/3/2007  10:56 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Curry: I don't have any personal goals. Honestly, it's all about the team. I will adapt any way I can and however I have to in order to make the playoffs.
The best scenario is when you have personal goals that help your team. Not having any personal goals is shocking actually.

I agree. It indicates apathy. Hmm... a Knicks player with apathy. Maybe this result isn't so surprising after all.

First you guys call him a stat whore. Then, when he says he'll adapt in any way he can to help the team, you say he's apathetic. Let's face it. No matter what he says, you'll find fault with it.

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10/3/2007  10:58 AM
Posted by misterearl:

RICHMOND, Oct. 2 -- Veteran Washington Wizards center Etan Thomas did not participate when training camp opened Tuesday after a recent cardiac test revealed an irregularity that could potentially be career-threatening.


Damaged goods, Isiah must be trying to swing a deal for him right now.
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10/3/2007  11:07 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by martin:

wow, you guys are arguing over other dude's weights and how they look in pictures.

I'm with you Martin. This post is very disturbing to me

i'd also add, don't read into players' reported weights either. some of the personal measurements online haven't been updated since the players entered the league, and definitely don't reflect month-to-month or even season-by-season changes. if curry's listed at 285 and says he dropped 20lbs, doesn't mean he's 265 these days. just an example.
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10/3/2007  11:08 AM
i'm more concerned about his relationship with urkel...

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