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10/3/2007  2:58 PM
I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.
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10/3/2007  3:00 PM
Maybe Isiah should just sue his lawyers for incompetence.
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10/3/2007  3:02 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.

You understand that the only person found personally liable for punitive damages was a white guy, right?
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10/3/2007  3:03 PM
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Maybe Isiah should just sue his lawyers for incompetence.

I can guarantee that Isiah will shift blame to his lawyers and anyone else he can think of before he ever takes responsibility for his actions.
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10/3/2007  3:32 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.

You're really an idiot... and obviously don't understand the legal system. Stop posting because you sound retarded.
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10/3/2007  3:34 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.

You understand that the only person found personally liable for punitive damages was a white guy, right?

isiah is not paying one penny to anucha. and isiah's attorneys helped select this jury. maybe he should've hired matlock.
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10/3/2007  5:00 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.

You're really an idiot... and obviously don't understand the legal system. Stop posting because you sound retarded.

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.
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10/3/2007  5:09 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.
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10/3/2007  5:15 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.
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10/3/2007  5:17 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.


Holy Crap ROTFLOL!

This is comical and yet the tone in this post depicts someone who's still emotionally angry over the outcome. I thought you said yesterday you were done with it?
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10/3/2007  5:23 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.

Dear God, learn to read, *******. You're bitching about the jury selection process, which is just stupid and making ridiculous claims regarding it. As for race being brought up, Isiah brought it up too! As for the point of race being brought up, they were establishing a history of insensitivity towards protected characteristics (race, gender, religion, etc...). Guess what, all of that is in their right to do. Your excuses are comical, though, so I thank you for that.
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10/3/2007  5:24 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.

Because in a case like this that boils down to "He Said, She Said", character becomes very important. Plus it goes to proving that the plaintiff was working under a hostile work environment as she claimed.

Race had nothing to do with it. If you want to complain about the racial makeup of the jury, I suggest you complain about Isiah's lawyers who had every opportunity to dictate it's composition in voir dire.
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10/3/2007  5:27 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.


really , bone up on the legal system. Both sides pick the jury. Ok, MSG and Isiahs all female jury picked the jury with ABS's team.


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10/3/2007  5:38 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.


really , bone up on the legal system. Both sides pick the jury. Ok, MSG and Isiahs all female jury picked the jury with ABS's team.

Both sides do pick the jury but how many reasonable black options were there? When the Jenna 6 guy had an all white jury did you also say both sides pick the jury?

Once again I will ask what did Isiahs comments about Larry Bird 20 years ago have in this case? Absolutely nothing. It was another blatant attempt to prejudice the jury. Larry Bird isnt Annucha. Larry Bird isnt claiming sexual harrassment. Larry Bird didnt work at MSG. Isiah Thomas didnt even work at MSG 20 years ago. There is no legit reason to bring that up other than to make another attempt prejudice the jury by trying to show Isiah hates white people.

Anyway I'm done arguing this because it really doesnt matter much to me. It really only matters to the people here that hate Isiah and Dolan. Its in the past and Isiah and the Knicks are already working hard to have a good season.
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10/3/2007  5:43 PM
^ COSSUCKS, you don't understand the legal system at all. All of the things you're complaining about are perfectly valid to bring up in a trial when someone's character is being questioned. If these things were not allowed, then the judge would've prohibited them and they would not have been admitted for consideration towards a verdict.
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10/3/2007  5:57 PM
Posted by Solace:

^ COSSUCKS, you don't understand the legal system at all. All of the things you're complaining about are perfectly valid to bring up in a trial when someone's character is being questioned. If these things were not allowed, then the judge would've prohibited them and they would not have been admitted for consideration towards a verdict.

Your repeated insults aside,
That is flat out false. You can not bring up anything and everything. It has to have relevance to this case. The judge did vigorously sustain an objection to the race baiting comments but you you cant undo the damage. You cant un ring the bell. The jury heard it. I'm sure ABS team was counting on that.



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10/3/2007  5:58 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I think you are projecting.

Every person has a right to a jury by his or her own peers and not to have a jury prejudiced by issues totally unrelated to the case. Thats why when ABS lawyers tried to make race an issue again later in the trial the defense objected and the judge sustained that objection vigorously.

Either lawyer could've influenced things in such a way to have a diversified jury if they wanted one. Yet neither one did, as evidenced by the jury that was selected. If you have an issue with this, you are welcome to call up the lawyers and complain. Otherwise, stop. Your complaints have nada to do with this case.

Race had nothing to do with the case? What did ABS claiming Isiah doesnt care about WHITE season ticket holders have to do with it? What did Isiahs comments regarding Larry Bird 20 years ago have to do with the case? It was an obvious attempt to prejudice the all white jury againt Isiah.

I dont have any complaints. It wasnt my case. I could care less about Isiah. I dont like him or hate him. This whole thread is misleading because David Stern isnt going to do anything to Isiah nor Dolan.


really , bone up on the legal system. Both sides pick the jury. Ok, MSG and Isiahs all female jury picked the jury with ABS's team.

Both sides do pick the jury but how many reasonable black options were there? When the Jenna 6 guy had an all white jury did you also say both sides pick the jury?

Once again I will ask what did Isiahs comments about Larry Bird 20 years ago have in this case? Absolutely nothing. It was another blatant attempt to prejudice the jury. Larry Bird isnt Annucha. Larry Bird isnt claiming sexual harrassment. Larry Bird didnt work at MSG. Isiah Thomas didnt even work at MSG 20 years ago. There is no legit reason to bring that up other than to make another attempt prejudice the jury by trying to show Isiah hates white people.

Anyway I'm done arguing this because it really doesnt matter much to me. It really only matters to the people here that hate Isiah and Dolan. Its in the past and Isiah and the Knicks are already working hard to have a good season.


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10/3/2007  8:07 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:

^ COSSUCKS, you don't understand the legal system at all. All of the things you're complaining about are perfectly valid to bring up in a trial when someone's character is being questioned. If these things were not allowed, then the judge would've prohibited them and they would not have been admitted for consideration towards a verdict.

Your repeated insults aside,
That is flat out false. You can not bring up anything and everything. It has to have relevance to this case. The judge did vigorously sustain an objection to the race baiting comments but you you cant undo the damage. You cant un ring the bell. The jury heard it. I'm sure ABS team was counting on that.

You're hopeless. Your statement ("You can not bring up anything and everything") wasn't even closely related to what I said. Just admit you don't like America's legal system based on the fact that your hero lost a case. Then we can move on with our lives.
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10/3/2007  8:10 PM
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The Knicks and Isaiah both have already said they would appeal.

That's what most criminals do!
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10/3/2007  8:17 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I would go with a more simple not a jury of my peers.
7 jurors all white. I find it hard to believe there wasnt a single black man in all of NYC that could have been on that jury. Than to keep trying to prejudice the all white jury that Isiah hates white people on multiple occasions in a case that had nothing to do with race should get him an appeal.

You're working off the assumption that black women more than whites would have supported an environment hostile toward black women?

And a jury that was approved of by both legal teams can't be cited as a procedural error.
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