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arkrud
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7/31/2007  9:36 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

Watching the press conference, you can't help but be impressed with the big 3. KG, Pierce and Allen are smart and classy guys. You really can't get any better. I LOVE KG and it's gonna be tough to root against him, cuz I HATE the Celtics, but KG is my favorite player in the league. I love how he loves the game and plays hard every single night. I've wanted him to win a title for a while but now if he did, it would be at our expense which i'm not happy with. I wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as we won our own title

Good post.

I hate Boston and I don't like the Celtics but I can always root for KG and I like Jesus.

KG and Allan is what we should have in place of Eddy and Steph.
And with our youth we will be the title contender
But we have somebody in charge with bad bbal taste and constant rush to put his fingers everywhere (including Anucha underwear)
Bad for Knicks and dood for Celtics.

[Edited by - arkrud on 07-31-2007 9:37 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 07-31-2007 9:38 PM]
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7/31/2007  9:37 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

Watching the press conference, you can't help but be impressed with the big 3. KG, Pierce and Allen are smart and classy guys. You really can't get any better. I LOVE KG and it's gonna be tough to root against him, cuz I HATE the Celtics, but KG is my favorite player in the league. I love how he loves the game and plays hard every single night. I've wanted him to win a title for a while but now if he did, it would be at our expense which i'm not happy with. I wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as we won our own title

Good post.

I hate Boston and I don't like the Celtics but I can always root for KG and I like Jesus.

Don't you like the Knicks too?

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7/31/2007  9:54 PM
Papabear says

Why don't all of you guys loving Ainge and the Boston Celtics just become Celtics fans. Better yet get your own damn Celtic blog sight and talk about how great the Celtics are. Go be a damn Celtic and stop hangin around the Knicks sight. You probably were Celtic fans all along. We Kiss my but. I liked KG I liked Ray Allen before they became a Celtic. Now they are my enemy and I don't like them. Do you know Why??? Because I am a New York Knicks Fan all the way not half way like some of you morons. You guys sound like Boston Red sox fans too.

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7/31/2007  9:58 PM
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear says

Why don't all of you guys loving Ainge and the Boston Celtics just become Celtics fans. Better yet get your own damn Celtic blog sight and talk about how great the Celtics are. Go be a damn Celtic and stop hangin around the Knicks sight. You probably were Celtic fans all along. We Kiss my but. I liked KG I liked Ray Allen before they became a Celtic. Now they are my enemy and I don't like them. Do you know Why??? Because I am a New York Knicks Fan all the way not half way like some of you morons. You guys sound like Boston Red sox fans too.

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7/31/2007  10:13 PM
Papabear says

I'm rooting like hell for Zeke because every game he wins I know the pain you guys will suffer. I'm saving all of these blogs and remembering all of your names. Danny Aings only got this deal because him and McHale were friends. If Zeke had the same players Ainge had and offered up to Mchale he would have turned the deal down.(it's a black thing) Ainge was no genious he just had a friend in his old playing buddy and when they get rid of Doc Rivers ( you know the Brother?) and Mchale gets fired and get hired in Boston you'll see what I'm talking about. Zeke have a bunch of guys who will play hard for him. KG, Ray Allen , Paul Pierce??? What have they won??? Anything less than going to the finals is a bust for Boston.
One more thing!!! I asure you that the Knicks will be ready for Boston. Let KG block Curry's donks. (He might break his hand)
LONG LIVE ZEKE AND THE KNICKS!!

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7/31/2007  10:19 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by bigbeast:

Keeping picks has nothing to do with who is a better drafter...BTW, who are these players that Ainge has drafted that are better than what Isiah has picked over his career?

This post isn't even worth a response, that's how stupid it is to be honest.

So why did you hit quote and respond..........STUPID!

And take this with you:

Stoudamire
McGrady
Camby
Frye
Lee
Balk
Nate

If you can't prove your point, no need to call names.........

[Edited by - bigbeast on 31-07-2007 10:32 PM]
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8/1/2007  12:10 AM
Posted by MS:

Isiah has had the 7th, 43rd, 21st, 23rd, 29th, and 30th pick in the past few drafts. Nate was a miss although he is talented, Frye was a disaster, Lee was a great pick and he overdrafted balkman and chandler. Marcus Williams and Lowry are very tradable assets, balkman has some value........

I like what isiah has done with his picks we have nice role playing talent. But the fact remains outside of a gimme pick in 96 in the deepest draft in years he has made a few great selection TMAC being on of them.

Ainge drafted Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, Perkins, Rondo, Gomes, Green, etc. So if your comparing i think you have to give ainge the edge vs. knicks/celtics picks.......

Isiah has yet to bring in an allstar or anyone that has made an allstar team with the knicks or has improved the win total. Everyone also mentions curry is better than what we could have had, but here we are the number 5 picks get Ray Allen, our pick last year could have brought us a superstar.

But the fact remains isiah hasn't even bought us a playoff spot with the latest deal as we were just blown out of the water by the cetlics and maybe the last place team in the divison, if not second to last ahead of philly........

Look who has value on the knicks if we can get a top 25 all time player with an expiring and some late draft selection perhaps i would give isiah his credit

"Nate was a miss, Frye was a disaster..." Who's standard are you going by there MS? Most teams don't get a damn thing out of their picks. Hell, we didn't get a damn thing out of our picks for a decade. Either Nate or Frye picked in the 90's would have been the KNicks' Pick of the Decade. Hate for hate's sake. Balkman has "some value" huh? Well that is generous of you.

None of thee guys have better trade value than Balkman... and he's productive for us, which equates to that being a great pick.

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26. *LA Lakers Jordan Farmar 6-2 171 PG UCLA So.
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8/1/2007  12:28 AM
Dude, Papa Smurf:


Why the man love for Isgayuh?


Is he your uncle or something?
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/1/2007  12:30 AM
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear says

I'm rooting like hell for Zeke because every game he wins I know the pain you guys will suffer. I'm saving all of these blogs and remembering all of your names. Danny Aings only got this deal because him and McHale were friends. If Zeke had the same players Ainge had and offered up to Mchale he would have turned the deal down.(it's a black thing) Ainge was no genious he just had a friend in his old playing buddy and when they get rid of Doc Rivers ( you know the Brother?) and Mchale gets fired and get hired in Boston you'll see what I'm talking about. Zeke have a bunch of guys who will play hard for him. KG, Ray Allen , Paul Pierce??? What have they won??? Anything less than going to the finals is a bust for Boston.
One more thing!!! I asure you that the Knicks will be ready for Boston. Let KG block Curry's donks. (He might break his hand)
LONG LIVE ZEKE AND THE KNICKS!!

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Islesfan says

Do you really want to judge the Celtics based on the Big 3's playoff history (They've all been to the conference finals)? How about you do the same with the Knicks. Amazingly enough, they lose that one in a big way too. Anything less than the playoffs is just status quo for the Knicks.

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8/1/2007  12:33 AM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by martin:

I think you meant to say... GM, not drafter. Isiah is a damn good drafter.

Ainge is arguably a better drafter than Isiah.


The proof is in the pudding...


He's even had the common sense to keep most of his picks, Martin, cmon.

keeping the picks or trading them is GM;ing not drafting.

show me the pudding.
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8/1/2007  12:44 AM
Posted by martin:


keeping the picks or trading them is GM;ing not drafting.

show me the pudding.


Now you're just arguing semantics dude.


Isiah wears many hats; he's not a "drafter" he's a GM.


One of his only strengths, actually his only strength as a GM, is drafting. But since he gives away picks like candy, he's stupid; whereas Ainge actually holds onto draft picks.


And yes Ainge in Boston has proven to be every bit as good a drafter as Isiah in NY...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/1/2007  12:46 AM
The pudding?


Gomes, Jefferson, Green, Rondo, Perkins, Glen Davis, Tony Allen, etc, etc.

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/1/2007  12:53 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by MS:

Isiah has had the 7th, 43rd, 21st, 23rd, 29th, and 30th pick in the past few drafts. Nate was a miss although he is talented, Frye was a disaster, Lee was a great pick and he overdrafted balkman and chandler. Marcus Williams and Lowry are very tradable assets, balkman has some value........

I like what isiah has done with his picks we have nice role playing talent. But the fact remains outside of a gimme pick in 96 in the deepest draft in years he has made a few great selection TMAC being on of them.

Ainge drafted Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, Perkins, Rondo, Gomes, Green, etc. So if your comparing i think you have to give ainge the edge vs. knicks/celtics picks.......

Isiah has yet to bring in an allstar or anyone that has made an allstar team with the knicks or has improved the win total. Everyone also mentions curry is better than what we could have had, but here we are the number 5 picks get Ray Allen, our pick last year could have brought us a superstar.

But the fact remains isiah hasn't even bought us a playoff spot with the latest deal as we were just blown out of the water by the cetlics and maybe the last place team in the divison, if not second to last ahead of philly........

Look who has value on the knicks if we can get a top 25 all time player with an expiring and some late draft selection perhaps i would give isiah his credit

"Nate was a miss, Frye was a disaster..." Who's standard are you going by there MS? Most teams don't get a damn thing out of their picks. Hell, we didn't get a damn thing out of our picks for a decade. Either Nate or Frye picked in the 90's would have been the KNicks' Pick of the Decade. Hate for hate's sake. Balkman has "some value" huh? Well that is generous of you.

None of thee guys have better trade value than Balkman... and he's productive for us, which equates to that being a great pick.

21. *Boston Rajon Rondo 6-2 171 PG Kentucky So.
22. *NewJersey Marcus Williams 6-3 215 PG UConn Jr.
23. New Jersey Josh Boone 6-10 237 PF UConn Jr.
24. Memphis Kyle Lowry 6-0 185 PG Villanova So.
25. Cleveland Shannon Brown 6-3 200 SG Mich St. Jr.
26. *LA Lakers Jordan Farmar 6-2 171 PG UCLA So.
27. *Portland Sergio Rodriguez 6-3 180 PG Spain 1986
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29. *New York Mardy Collins 6-5 224 PG/SG Temple Sr.
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8/1/2007  3:07 AM
Papabear says

I can see the hate you guys have for Zeke and it would give me so much pleasure for him to make the playoffs. So hears the deal, if the Knicks make the playoffs then Zekes done what is expected. If Boston don't get in the final then the big three a still loosers. I can't wait for the season to start. We will get Artest and Watch big snacks on KG Big Snacks will earn some of that money he stole from the Knicks.
I'm rooting like hell for Zeke because every game he wins I know the pain you guys will suffer. I'm saving all of these blogs and remembering all of your names. Danny Aings only got this deal because him and McHale were friends. If Zeke had the same players Ainge had and offered up to Mchale he would have turned the deal down.(it's a black thing) Ainge was no genious he just had a friend in his old playing buddy and when they get rid of Doc Rivers ( you know the Brother?) and Mchale gets fired and get hired in Boston you'll see what I'm talking about. Zeke have a bunch of guys who will play hard for him. KG, Ray Allen , Paul Pierce??? What have they won??? Anything less than going to the finals is a bust for Boston.
One more thing!!! I asure you that the Knicks will be ready for Boston. Let KG block Curry's donks. (He might break his hand)
LONG LIVE ZEKE AND THE KNICKS!!

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8/1/2007  9:31 AM
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8/1/2007  9:32 AM
Garnett is great but he has more miles on him than a 1980 Ford Escort. He has played 35,500 minutes. Curry has played 11,400 minutes. Thats less than 1/3 the wear and tear on our center. Zach has played 11,200 minutes. Thats also less than 1/3 the miles KG has on him.
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8/1/2007  9:34 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Garnett is great but he has more miles on him than a 1980 Ford Escort. He has played 35,500 minutes. Curry has played 11,400 minutes. Thats less than 1/3 the wear and tear on our center. Zach has played 11,200 minutes. Thats also less than 1/3 the miles KG has on him.

They're younger players than KG and KG was given a bigger role from day 1 in the NBA than these guys were, so that result is not surprising, is it?
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8/1/2007  9:40 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Garnett is great but he has more miles on him than a 1980 Ford Escort. He has played 35,500 minutes. Curry has played 11,400 minutes. Thats less than 1/3 the wear and tear on our center. Zach has played 11,200 minutes. Thats also less than 1/3 the miles KG has on him.

They're younger players than KG and KG was given a bigger role from day 1 in the NBA than these guys were, so that result is not surprising, is it?

Its not surprising but its a ton of minutes and those heavy miles will come knocking just like they have on Marbury.

Do you expect a 2002 with 40,000 miles to have better reliability in the future or a 1996 with 160,000 miles?
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8/1/2007  9:41 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Garnett is great but he has more miles on him than a 1980 Ford Escort. He has played 35,500 minutes. Curry has played 11,400 minutes. Thats less than 1/3 the wear and tear on our center. Zach has played 11,200 minutes. Thats also less than 1/3 the miles KG has on him.

They're younger players than KG and KG was given a bigger role from day 1 in the NBA than these guys were, so that result is not surprising, is it?

Its not surprising but its a ton of minutes and those heavy miles will come knocking just like they have on Marbury.

Do you expect a 2002 with 40,000 miles to have better reliability in the future or a 1996 with 160,000 miles?

Depends is it a Ferrari or a Buick. And are you doing the Grand Prix, or going to the supermarket.
If I'm doing the Grand Prix, I want the Ferrari, regardless of the mileage, at least I have a shot.
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8/1/2007  9:42 AM
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear says

I'm rooting like hell for Zeke because every game he wins I know the pain you guys will suffer. I'm saving all of these blogs and remembering all of your names. Danny Aings only got this deal because him and McHale were friends. If Zeke had the same players Ainge had and offered up to Mchale he would have turned the deal down.(it's a black thing)

its not a black thing, you got it right first. They are friends and played together. If Mchale was trading KG, he was sending him to his favorite team.

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