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7/31/2007  12:50 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by misterearl:

They are start out missing their pacifiers and need frequent diaper changes. They grow up to be cross-dressing in-the-closet fans who would more eagerly root for the Knicks to lose.

wow.

FINALLY a cogent explanation for the aberrant behavior of the haters.

this explains why djsu always gets so happy when the security guys at the garden hand search him.

and then me tipping them after...
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7/31/2007  1:09 PM
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by Solace:

[quote]Posted by tomverve:

Nobody said Curry was below average. There's some REALLY sucky starting centers in the league right now. But Curry isn't close to the class of the elite centers, primarily because of his defense. Is that not a fair point?

If you don't know the difference between saying Curry's PER isn't on the level of the elite centers and saying that it isn't good compared to the league average or amongst centers (not "elite centers" but "centers"), I don't know what to tell you.

Ok, so basically what you're saying is you jumped off into your own conversation. Let's give you a pat on the back. You won an argument against yourself, then. The discussion wasn't comparing Eddy Curry to the average center; it was just a comparison to enhance the notion of how dismal Curry has been compared to the credit some of you give him. Maybe it's your low standards of Eddy that explain why YOU have to discuss a comparison against the average center. Nobody cares if Eddy is better than somebody like Jason Collins. He's being touted as a franchise player by some of the homers on this board, and that is what needs to be addressed, because his stats don't back up that notion.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 1:10 PM]
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7/31/2007  1:12 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by Solace:

[quote]Posted by tomverve:

Nobody said Curry was below average. There's some REALLY sucky starting centers in the league right now. But Curry isn't close to the class of the elite centers, primarily because of his defense. Is that not a fair point?

If you don't know the difference between saying Curry's PER isn't on the level of the elite centers and saying that it isn't good compared to the league average or amongst centers (not "elite centers" but "centers"), I don't know what to tell you.

Ok, so basically what you're saying is you jumped off into your own conversation. Let's give you a pat on the back. You won an argument against yourself, then. The discussion wasn't comparing Eddy Curry to the average center; it was just a comparison to enhance the notion of how dismal Curry has been compared to the credit some of you give him. Maybe it's your low standards of Eddy that explain why YOU have to discuss a comparison against the average center. Nobody cares if Eddy is better than somebody like Jason Collins. He's being touted as a franchise player by some of the homers on this board, and that is what needs to be addressed, because his stats don't back up that notion.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 1:10 PM]


He gets an E for Effort, that's all!
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7/31/2007  1:15 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by Solace:

[quote]Posted by tomverve:

Nobody said Curry was below average. There's some REALLY sucky starting centers in the league right now. But Curry isn't close to the class of the elite centers, primarily because of his defense. Is that not a fair point?

If you don't know the difference between saying Curry's PER isn't on the level of the elite centers and saying that it isn't good compared to the league average or amongst centers (not "elite centers" but "centers"), I don't know what to tell you.

Ok, so basically what you're saying is you jumped off into your own conversation. Let's give you a pat on the back. You won an argument against yourself, then. The discussion wasn't comparing Eddy Curry to the average center; it was just a comparison to enhance the notion of how dismal Curry has been compared to the credit some of you give him. Maybe it's your low standards of Eddy that explain why YOU have to discuss a comparison against the average center. Nobody cares if Eddy is better than somebody like Jason Collins. He's being touted as a franchise player by some of the homers on this board, and that is what needs to be addressed, because his stats don't back up that notion.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 1:10 PM]
TrueBlue's post compared Eddy Curry to league average among Centers.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Hey Nix can we use Per ratings for other Knicks players and apply where they fit accordingly?


Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.


Luva what are the rules when we can use PER and when we can't to support our arguments?
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7/31/2007  1:21 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by tomverve:

Nobody said Curry was below average. There's some REALLY sucky starting centers in the league right now. But Curry isn't close to the class of the elite centers, primarily because of his defense. Is that not a fair point?

If you don't know the difference between saying Curry's PER isn't on the level of the elite centers and saying that it isn't good compared to the league average or amongst centers (not "elite centers" but "centers"), I don't know what to tell you.

Ok, so basically what you're saying is you jumped off into your own conversation. Let's give you a pat on the back. You won an argument against yourself, then. The discussion wasn't comparing Eddy Curry to the average center; it was just a comparison to enhance the notion of how dismal Curry has been compared to the credit some of you give him. Maybe it's your low standards of Eddy that explain why YOU have to discuss a comparison against the average center. Nobody cares if Eddy is better than somebody like Jason Collins. He's being touted as a franchise player by some of the homers on this board, and that is what needs to be addressed, because his stats don't back up that notion.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 1:10 PM]
TrueBlue's post compared Eddy Curry to league average among Centers.


[quote]Posted by TrueBlue:

Hey Nix can we use Per ratings for other Knicks players and apply where they fit accordingly?


Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.


Luva what are the rules when we can use PER and when we can't to support our arguments?


Do you see the word AND in there? I should have capitalized the word LEAGUE. I was comparing Curry to Centers and obviously the standard should be amongst the Elite not the Crap and comparing his PER to the LEAGUE AVERAGE PER.


YIKES! DOUBLE YIKES!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:22 PM]
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7/31/2007  1:25 PM
here i go not taking my own advice but seriously, if you are going to be condescending in all posts you dislike you will be alienating a lotta people.
Posted by TrueBlue:

Do you see the word AND in there? I should have capitalized the word LEAGUE. I was comparing Curry to Centers and obviously the standard should be amongst the Elite not the Crap and comparing his PER to the LEAGUE AVERAGE PER.


YIKES! DOUBLE YIKES!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:22 PM]
You also needed the word ELITE in there. wtf, who knew you would actually think eddy is good enough to be compared to the elite?
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7/31/2007  1:32 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

here i go not taking my own advice but seriously, if you are going to be condescending in all posts you dislike you will be alienating a lotta people.
Posted by TrueBlue:

Do you see the word AND in there? I should have capitalized the word LEAGUE. I was comparing Curry to Centers and obviously the standard should be amongst the Elite not the Crap and comparing his PER to the LEAGUE AVERAGE PER.


YIKES! DOUBLE YIKES!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:22 PM]
You also needed the word ELITE in there. wtf, who knew you would actually think eddy is good enough to be compared to the elite?


I always use a higher standard when making comparison. It's too bad we as a team and as individual players don't meet them with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions. It's should have been obvious the comparison would be at a higher ceiling since MS & Luva were comparing Zach to a higher ceiling. I mean yeah, let's compare Zach to Gems/Elite but misunderstand and think EY was being compared to Trash/Bottom Feeders.(rolling eyes)

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:34 PM]
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7/31/2007  1:38 PM
I think comparing eddy to an average center is warranted when your looking at all around numbers. He is one of the worst passing centers in the leauge. He turns it over more than center in the nba. He bring in .5blks a night one of the worst rates in the league and he isn't a very good rebounder so in the grand scheme of things he is a very good low post scoer from 8 feet in and way below average in everything else.....

He does command a double, and does get people into foul trouble but as far as being a positive player in the win/ loss department.....

Right now you could make the case the knicks would be a better team with:
1. Shaq
2. Yao
3. Camby
4. Okafur
5. Chandler
6. Sammy
7. Wallace
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7/31/2007  1:41 PM
This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
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7/31/2007  1:45 PM
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
I'm assuming you are responding to me since I jumped in. Its not what I think, its what TrueBlue posted.
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7/31/2007  1:46 PM
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.


I think the LOVERS tried to Ole Switcheroo Solace.

There's no way if you follow this thread from the start that there could have been blatant confusion.
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7/31/2007  1:46 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Silverfuel:

here i go not taking my own advice but seriously, if you are going to be condescending in all posts you dislike you will be alienating a lotta people.
Posted by TrueBlue:

Do you see the word AND in there? I should have capitalized the word LEAGUE. I was comparing Curry to Centers and obviously the standard should be amongst the Elite not the Crap and comparing his PER to the LEAGUE AVERAGE PER.


YIKES! DOUBLE YIKES!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:22 PM]
You also needed the word ELITE in there. wtf, who knew you would actually think eddy is good enough to be compared to the elite?


I always use a higher standard when making comparison. It's too bad we as a team and as individual players don't meet them with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions. It's should have been obvious the comparison would be at a higher ceiling since MS & Luva were comparing Zach to a higher ceiling. I mean yeah, let's compare Zach to Gems/Elite but misunderstand and think EY was being compared to Trash/Bottom Feeders.(rolling eyes)

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 12:34 PM]
If you don't want your posts to be interpreted differently be clearer. I was under the impression you were comparing him against the league average among centers. I'm sure thats what tomverve though.
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7/31/2007  1:47 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
I'm assuming you are responding to me since I jumped in. Its not what I think, its what TrueBlue posted.

General comment based on what I've observed. Not directed at any particular person. I think, at best, it was interpreted differently that True intended. If so, I would've expected an outcry of, "Why are you comparing Eddy to scrubs? Eddy is great! I love Eddy!" Never saw that. Again, not directing at any particular person, but his points seemed pretty clear to me, at any rate.
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7/31/2007  1:47 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
I'm assuming you are responding to me since I jumped in. Its not what I think, its what TrueBlue posted.

Yes that would translate to "I don't think highly of Curry". I check to make sure my shoes are tied before jumping into threads so I don't trip over myself.
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7/31/2007  1:50 PM
Anyway, the bigger point is, before you call someone an idiot (Tom), at least make sure you and him are even talking about the same thing.
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7/31/2007  1:51 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
I'm assuming you are responding to me since I jumped in. Its not what I think, its what TrueBlue posted.

Yes that would translate to "I don't think highly of Curry". I check to make sure my shoes are tied before jumping into threads so I don't trip over myself.
Dude, you are a complete fuking tool! I am trying to give you an explanation and for the 3rd post in a row you come swinging. What the **** is your problem? Are you retarded? Don't you understand it when someone is giving you a ****ing explanation. You trip over yourself as*hole!
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7/31/2007  1:51 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

This is just another case of the lovers having terribly low standards. If you think Eddy vs. scrubs is a valid comparison, then you don't think very highly of Eddy. One of the many paradoxes on this board.
I'm assuming you are responding to me since I jumped in. Its not what I think, its what TrueBlue posted.

General comment based on what I've observed. Not directed at any particular person. I think, at best, it was interpreted differently that True intended. If so, I would've expected an outcry of, "Why are you comparing Eddy to scrubs? Eddy is great! I love Eddy!" Never saw that. Again, not directing at any particular person, but his points seemed pretty clear to me, at any rate.

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7/31/2007  2:07 PM
I also thought TrueBlue was explicitly comparing Curry to the league average. Its clear as day from his post.
Originally posted by TrueBlue:

Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Posted by kam77:

I also thought TrueBlue was explicitly comparing Curry to the league average. Its clear as day from his post.
Originally posted by TrueBlue:

Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.

Ok, apparently I'm the only one on the board who reads the entire post, because right after he posted comparisons against elite centers. Clear as day. *shrug*
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7/31/2007  2:14 PM
Then he should own up to the fact that he contradicted himself immediately after the offending passage. Instead he's sky-larking like he owns the place.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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