that's fine... let's keep it to the present... this season your team owns a W-L record that's 1.5 games better than the Yankees playing in an inferior league... so tell me how your team is so much more superior to ours again? o right, it's because of all that "homegrown youth" on your team. other than Reyes & Wright, the rest of your homegrown talent isn't much to write home about, unless you happen to think Lastings Milledge is the second coming of Ken Griffey Jr. like some Met fans seem to like to hype him up to be... Carlos Gomez? we'll see how good he turns out... right now Melky's #'s are better than his... John Maine? cool, we got Chien Ming Wang... Aaron Heilman? no comment necessary... he's an average reliever at best... put him in the AL East & his ERA would jump up to over 4... Ruben Gotay? ok, cool... we got Robinson Cano... did i miss anyone?

i'm not even saying your team is crap either... you have some good young talent on your team... i'm just sick of listening to Met fans bash the Yankees & their prospects for future success as if they don't even compare... it's that old inferiority complex rearing its ugly head like it does every year that forces Met fans to constantly downgrade their crosstown rivals because they get all the coverage in this town as they should... win a few more rings & you guys will get the media attention you deserve too... until then, all i can say is you're just going to have to deal with the fact that the Yankees are NY's team... like i said before, win a few rings before you talk all that smack broham.

Posted by TMS:

that's fine... let's keep it to the present... this season your team owns a W-L record that's 1.5 games better than the Yankees playing in an inferior league... so tell me how your team is so much more superior to ours again? o right, it's because of all that "homegrown youth" on your team. other than Reyes & Wright, the rest of your homegrown talent isn't much to write home about, unless you happen to think Lastings Milledge is the second coming of Ken Griffey Jr. like some Met fans seem to like to hype him up to be... Carlos Gomez? we'll see how good he turns out... right now Melky's #'s are better than his... John Maine? cool, we got Chien Ming Wang... Aaron Heilman? no comment necessary... he's an average reliever at best... put him in the AL East & his ERA would jump up to over 4... Ruben Gotay? ok, cool... we got Robinson Cano... did i miss anyone?

i'm not even saying your team is crap either... you have some good young talent on your team... i'm just sick of listening to Met fans bash the Yankees & their prospects for future success as if they don't even compare... it's that old inferiority complex rearing its ugly head like it does every year that forces Met fans to constantly downgrade their crosstown rivals because they get all the coverage in this town as they should... win a few more rings & you guys will get the media attention you deserve too... until then, all i can say is you're just going to have to deal with the fact that the Yankees are NY's team... like i said before, win a few rings before you talk all that smack broham.

btw, you're nuts if you think there's another closer in baseball that's better than Mo in a big game... i don't want to hear Jonathan Papelbon, Billy Wagner, Joe Nathan, Eric Gagne or whoever else's name you want to compare... until they show it in the postseason, it's all just unfulfilled hype.

It's exciting to me on a small level because the Cubbies have a real shot to win their division. Considering they've won without Woods and Prior for the season, the Grant Hill pitchers of baseball, I'm liking their chances as each day goes by.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Just to nitpick with you TMS, since I am a huge Yankee fan.. I don't think we have the best catcher in baseball, although I do think Jorge is Top5. Just off the top of my head, Mauer, Russ Martin and Brian McCann are better then Jorge(in both hitting and defensively) I think I would put Jorge (4th) next and then probably have Pudge or Benjie Molina round out the Top5.

Mauer is right up there w/Jorge, i'll give you that, but is he measurably better? i'm not so sure... Russ Martin & Brian McCann? no way dude... not yet anyway... maybe in a few years when they hit their primes, but right now Jorge is just about the best in the game at his position... the guy gets better every year & he's turning 36 this year... it's sick.

i'd say Victor Martinez of the tribe is the only guy who can be argued to be better in terms of talent & ability to Jorge right now, but until he can show it over a longer period of time, i'm sticking w/our guy.

I'd love to get that Saltalamacchia kid from the Braves since they are shopping him. He can be the heir-apparent to Jorge.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I dunno man.. have you seen Russ Martins line this year? 11hr/66rbi/55runs/17SBs/.300avg plus I'd say hes arguably the best catcher defensively in the game.

Jorge's putting up .334 BA / 10 HR / 56 RBI / 51 runs / .416 OBP / .517 SLG w/28 doubles in the AL... those are elite #'s right there for a C... Martin's a great young player, but i don't think he's better than Jorge just yet... in a few years maybe, but right now overall i think Jorge tops him... Jorge's no slouch either behind the plate & handling a pitching staff... in fact his fielding % of .992 this season as a C is slightly better than Martin's .988.


[Edited by - TMS on 07-25-2007 4:46 PM]

unless we give up Hughes or Chamberlain, i don't think we got a realistic shot... Kennedy's not going to do it IMO unless we throw in a Tabata, & i'm not willing to do that.

i've been living in so-cal this summer so i watch big russ martin every day, the guy's an absolute stud.

not taking anything away from jorge, i love the guy, but russ is the class of the NL (at least) and will be for the next 10 yrs.

Posted by VDesai:

If they get another 2-3 years out of Jorge they have some good prospects coming up in a few years.

I think the Yanks should stand pat at the deadline, or just get a platoon 1b like Klesko.

i agree... i'd stand pat unless we can get a Mark Texeira w/o having to give up Hughes or Chamberlain... i don't think Klesko's an option now that Andy Phillips is doing such a solid job in the field & at the plate... plus, i don't think they're interested in him anyway... if they target a stopgap for the rest of this season, the name that's being talked about is Dan Johnson from the A's, but unless we can get him on the cheap, i don't think he's that much of an upgrade to be worth the hassle... Ty Wigginton is the other name that's being talked about but Tampa's GM is notoriously stingy & asks for the moon in any trade... i don't think the Yankees will be willing to give up much more than Scott Proctor straight up for him, & i don't see Tampa making that deal.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by BigSm00th:

i've been living in so-cal this summer so i watch big russ martin every day, the guy's an absolute stud.

not taking anything away from jorge, i love the guy, but russ is the class of the NL (at least) and will be for the next 10 yrs.

I totally agree Sm00th. I honestly think he's the best catcher in the bigs.

well, in a few years we may have our own young C stud coming up through the farm system:

http://firetorre.blogspot.com/2006/11/prospect-profile-jesus-montero-10.html

Posted by TMS:

nyk, looks like ATL may trade Salty to TEX in a Mark Texieria package

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/mlb/news/trade_deadline/index_07.jsp

Mark Teixeira
Mark Teixeira, who averaged 35 homers and 113 RBIs in his first four seasons in the big leagues, has drawn plenty of attention from clubs on the hunt for a slugging first baseman. With the Yankees among the suitors finding the price too high, the Braves have reportedly come on strong. Atlanta would likely center a package around rookie catcher/first baseman Jarrod Saltalamacchia.

Man that sucks, he's being traded for Teixiera too. Salty is going to be a stud and trust me when Jorge leaves we are going to be stuck because its very hard to find a catcher that gives the production and leadership like Jorge has given us. When you look around the league there is only about 7 really good hitting catchers, its a tough thing to find.

Edit: I'm not directing this post at you TMS like you dont want Salty. I'm just saying in general.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-25-2007 9:51 PM]